Normaly I move my longe foreskin up and down... so, when I rolled it back (spoon) the foreskin get loose and stay not folted. Any ideas to help?
I don't think the spoon method is great for masturbating, because it's hard to keep the skin folded. You can try just working on the head, but even just a full hardon tends to cause it to unravel. Maybe just pull the skin back all the way in stead, and then focus on pulling back with every stroke. Never pull the skin forward over the head. And if you can keep it back after masturbation, that should help too, because the skin learns to relax into and accept the retracted state as the new normal.
I think that could work.
My foreskin is long, so it will be cover my penishead when he is hard. And in the soft Version, the skin rolls always up. So the spoon method is a good way, to hold the skin back.
You mean I should pull it always back, maybe stretching?
And then rubb the shaft and head normal up and down and
after I had my fun, leave it back or fold it again?
I've been doing a perpetual retraction stroke to put my foreskin under more time under tension. If you're newer to being permanently retracted then your may focus more on the shaft below the head, hitting your corona from time to time. Once you're desensitized you can start the stroke directly from the head on down. Even feels great to just pull my foreskin down really tight and hold.
Not sure about the spoon method but you masturbate like every cut guy out there.
Hold your skin at the base and grab a bottle of lube and go for it. You will want to get used to rubbing your glans directly.
The spoon method is great for daily wear, but as you've discovered, it doesn't work very well if you want to masturbate with a bare glans.
One simple option is to retract your foreskin all the way, and it hold it back at the base with one hand, and then use the other hand to masturbate.
Another simple option I like is to retract my my foreskin, then wrap my thumb and finger tightly around my penis just behind my glans, then tug back and forth. Then skin won't move and won't cover the glans, and the thumb and forefinger stimulate the sulcus, the frenulum, and the back of the corona, and the glans also gets a bit of indirect stimulation from the tugging.
The very best method for masturbation in mh opinion is the tape method. This keeps the skin securely held in place and tightly retracted. It exposed all of the sensitive inner foreskin and the glans. And it allows you to use both hands to masturbate however you like.
If you are new to retraction, you'll probably find that your glans may still be too sensitive to direct stimulation, so you may want to focus on the frenulum, inner foreskin, and shaft at first. Once you've been retracted for awhile, your glans will become less painfully sensitive and you'll have more options, including rubbing your glans and shaft dry or with lube.
the spoon technique works very well for me. Thanks to the long foreskin, I can keep the bare state in the flaccid as well as the stiff state.
What is the tape method?
yesterday I tried not to loosen the rolled up skin. that worked up to a point.
Then it came free and I tried to hold it tight behind with one hand. with the other hand i rubbed the shaft and head. it was much harder than pushing the foreskin up and down. the direct contact, unfortunately without oil, was already intense
Quote from: stephan29 on 2022-01-13 11:33:50
Then it came free and I tried to hold it tight behind with one hand. with the other hand i rubbed the shaft and head. it was much harder than pushing the foreskin up and down. the direct contact, unfortunately without oil, was already intense
MMM! Bliss!
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Quote from: stephan29 on 2022-01-12 11:28:54
You mean I should pull it always back, maybe stretching?
And then rubb the shaft and head normal up and down and
after I had my fun, leave it back or fold it again?
Yes, that's what I mean. Although you don't have to always keep it stretched back tight, and just rub the head and shaft. You can still move the skin up and down the shaft, just don't push it back over the head. Emphasize always pulling it back towards the base. You might also search this forum for info about the lymphatic training, which dude101 has advanced. You could do that after masturbating, to help the skin stay pulled back after you wank.
Ah yes... when the skin is back, so leave it there an only move down.
I think it's also much more pleasant than keeping the skin under tension
This is a technique I rarely use because the foreskin is so long that it covers the glans even when it's stiff.
For lymphatic training i will see, what i can find here
What I've done for years is to get my scrotum below my thighs and squeeze them. When I'm doing it I'm pulling down my skin and everything is tight, so no skin that bothers me when masturbating. Only rubbed dry on the head and after some time, I got used to it and was using my whole hand around my penis and the best sensitive part is the corona. Your penile moisture will evaporate very quick the next time and dry rubbing will feel exquisite. I just cannot rub with my skin back and forth, no pleasure, my wife got used to it too ;)
Quote from: jdm on 2022-01-15 10:26:50
Yes, that's what I mean. Although you don't have to always keep it stretched back tight, and just rub the head and shaft. You can still move the skin up and down the shaft, just don't push it back over the head. Emphasize always pulling it back towards the base. You might also search this forum for info about the lymphatic training, which dude101 has advanced. You could do that after masturbating, to help the skin stay pulled back after you wank.
Yes, that's definitely a good idea. I've tried it a few times now and it's definitely different. Pushing up and down stimulates the glans rim and frenulum, which takes longer than usual with this technique, but it works. just pushing down hard keeps the skin well behind
I have been keeping my foreskin back part time and I am still working out the best technique for wanking. My foreskin does stay back when hard most of the time which helps. If I have my skin forward I do tend to work my dick around the head, so when back I am trying two ways of wanking.
1- Working the shaft more with a mix of shorter strokes and longer ones that pull the skin back as far as it will go. it takes a little longer to cum and the pleasure seems to build from much deeper.
2- Working just below the head and rubbing up my bare glans and around the corona and frenulum. Sometimes this is more doable than others, I do make quite a-lot of pre cum which helps, but if its a quicky and too dry its not as good.
In the past I have tried pulling my balls down, which keeps the skin further down my shaft, however I like to play with my nipples when I wank so I prefer one hand free ;)
I have noticed regardless, that when my skin is back and I cum with the glans exposed my orgasm is much better, I seem to produce more cum and often I shoot further.
I've found a cock ring is quite useful; pull all the skin right back put the ring and push it down onto the skin then stretch the ring and tuck all the loose skin between the ring and your body, get the lube out and all the pleasure is yours.
Quote from: acheilidh on 2022-02-06 14:15:15
I've found a cock ring is quite useful; pull all the skin right back put the ring and push it down onto the skin then stretch the ring and tuck all the loose skin between the ring and your body, get the lube out and all the pleasure is yours.
I'm not entirely sure what that means. where should the ring be at the end and what is meant by pinching the skin?
I have been pulled back for 5 days now and its amazing how the sensitivity has subsided. Today I was able to masturbate by rubbing my glans directly...Quite a sensational feeling!
Quote from: gayonlyporn on 2022-02-10 04:10:33
I have been pulled back for 5 days now and its amazing how the sensitivity has subsided. Today I was able to masturbate by rubbing my glans directly...Quite a sensational feeling!
The best feeling! ;D
I almost always masturbate retracted. My skin will stay back (although I'm usually fully covered when hard and have to pull back). I then just stroke the shaft below the head, but not touching it.
Sometimes I'll masturbate like I'm high and tight cut, especially if using spoon method. I'll use lube and work the whole cock including head but never pulling the foreskin forward.
I too have a big foreskin. As a plus this gives plenty of movement of the shaft skin. I can reach a very satisfying orgasm by moving the shafts skin so that the foreskin "nudges" the rim of the glans on the up stroke while the down stroke puts tension on the sensitive frenulum. The glans remains bare and dry throughout, though it is sometimes necessary to re-tuck the foreskin after cleaning up.
Quote from: LoveMyGlans on 2022-03-04 22:28:38
I too have a big foreskin. As a plus this gives plenty of movement of the shaft skin. I can reach a very satisfying orgasm by moving the shafts skin so that the foreskin "nudges" the rim of the glans on the up stroke while the down stroke puts tension on the sensitive frenulum. The glans remains bare and dry throughout, though it is sometimes necessary to re-tuck the foreskin after cleaning up.
Seconding this - this is how I do it 90 percent of the time too. My inner skin being stretched gets me off pretty fast.
Quote from: soundsgreat87 on 2022-03-05 01:02:14
Seconding this - this is how I do it 90 percent of the time too. My inner skin being stretched gets me off pretty fast.
either I slide the foreskin up and down and then expose the glans again, or I slide back the long foreskin, hold it by the shaft and move the skin up and down the shaft, releasing the glans.