Pulled back β€” living with a bare head

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Title: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Curiousmom on 2020-11-17 12:56:01
I posted this on Reddit and was directed here. πŸ™‚πŸ™

A couple weekends ago I was at my sister in laws house for the day (they have moved back into our area) and our boys were running around and in and out the pool naked as little boys do, and I noticed my nephews looked circumcised. Its been a good few years since I changed their nappies and bathed my nephews (6 and 7) but I didnt remember them being circumcised so I was rather suprised and asked her when they had been circumcised. She looked at me confused and then said "Oh! No, they aren't circumcised, they both just keep their foreskins back. James (older nephew) started leaving it back about 2 years ago and eventually Kevin started doing it too, so they both are like that all the time now." So I say I see and thats that.

Then the other day talking with my son and he asks me how come his cousins pensises look different to his, so I explain that they arent different they just prefer to keep their foreskins pulled back. He asks why. I say Im not sure. Hes says he wants to do that too, and I reply that if thats what he wants to do that's fine. A couple hours later he, clearly upset and frustrated comes to tell me his skin wont stay back and asks how. I told him Im not sure because I dont have a penis LOL but maybe it just takes practice. I ask my hubby later but he just laughs at me, partly because he finds the idea funny but mostly because he is circumcised and hasnt a clue how foreskins work! LOL.
Its evident my son is still trying to get it right but isnt having much success. I could ask my sister in law how her boys do it but that feels rather awkward. I was hoping you guys, having the right equipment LOL and experience might be able to give me some instructions as to how to keep a foreskin back to pass on to my son?
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: RedHead on 2020-11-17 15:15:33
It's not something he should force, just tell him to pop it back each time before he pees. Tightly whiteys are the best to keep things in place. Keep it natural and as carefree as possible tell him not to focus on it. He's normal, and if he wants to keep it back just do as above pop it back whenever he remembers and eventually it will decide to stay there after being put there and will stay for longer each time.
Just don't make a big thing about it.
:)
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Eisen on 2020-11-17 16:47:46
That's a cute story, and congratulations for being a curious mom. I wish more moms were like this.
I would not make a big deal out of the topic, to not stress out your son. It's all a matter of preference, and the foreskin in most cases will always tend to roll back to its original position. Having said that, many people like the feeling of having the glans exposed (it may reduce a little the super-sensitivity, helps with smells, can look visually appealing), and the best and simplest initial advice is to just pull the foreskin back every time you remember, and use the underwear to hold it pulled back. I wouldn't encourage the use of any devices or more complex practices on younger kids, as their bodies will still change a lot... From my understanding, if you start pulling back earlier, you are more likely to eventually be able to keep a permanente retraction, and the body will grow up used to that state.
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Dicsolovag on 2020-11-17 20:26:44
Wow!
This is nice that you take care of your son at this level.

I remember I tried to keep it back when I was around 7 and I wasn't able to. I recommend that you let him know to tell you if something doesn't look right down there.
When I tried keeping my foreskin back sometimes, most of the times my foreskin got swollen quiet a bit.
I had to let it forward.
This was still happening a couple of years ago when my foreskin finally stretched enough that it is now good. (33 now)

There were 2 ways how I was able to keep it back at that time.
Simply pulled back in both ways but in one of them the inner foreskin got turn out and a bigger bunch appeared. This was the one that rolled forward more easily.
The second one when my penis was a bit moist and the foreskin was able to slip on the head. In this way it got stuck right behind the head without the bunch of skin. This was better looking and more comfortable but got swollen almost every time.

I wish you to be able to help him.
I'll try the same if it happens with my son.
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: thesevenpointfive on 2020-11-17 21:33:27
Quote from: Curiousmom on 2020-11-17 12:56:01
I posted this on Reddit and was directed here. πŸ™‚πŸ™

A couple weekends ago I was at my sister in laws house for the day (they have moved back into our area) and our boys were running around and in and out the pool naked as little boys do, and I noticed my nephews looked circumcised. Its been a good few years since I changed their nappies and bathed my nephews (6 and 7) but I didnt remember them being circumcised so I was rather suprised and asked her when they had been circumcised. She looked at me confused and then said "Oh! No, they aren't circumcised, they both just keep their foreskins back. James (older nephew) started leaving it back about 2 years ago and eventually Kevin started doing it too, so they both are like that all the time now." So I say I see and thats that.

Then the other day talking with my son and he asks me how come his cousins pensises look different to his, so I explain that they arent different they just prefer to keep their foreskins pulled back. He asks why. I say Im not sure. Hes says he wants to do that too, and I reply that if thats what he wants to do that's fine. A couple hours later he, clearly upset and frustrated comes to tell me his skin wont stay back and asks how. I told him Im not sure because I dont have a penis LOL but maybe it just takes practice. I ask my hubby later but he just laughs at me, partly because he finds the idea funny but mostly because he is circumcised and hasnt a clue how foreskins work! LOL.
Its evident my son is still trying to get it right but isnt having much success. I could ask my sister in law how her boys do it but that feels rather awkward. I was hoping you guys, having the right equipment LOL and experience might be able to give me some instructions as to how to keep a foreskin back to pass on to my son?

Can i ask how old your son is? if the two other boys started at 5, it may be that they have tight foreskins which allow the skin to stay behind the head, as the skin is still growing. Most boys of that age don't normally keep the skin back or even wash it. Your son does he keeps have any trouble pulling it back? If he where to fold it when he does it the next time ( fold the skin when the skin goes forward) that might keep his skin back and train it.
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Elete on 2020-11-17 23:55:09
The foreskin does usually return to it's original position in most cases. So the best advice is probably to train it to stay put by pulling it back whenever it slips foreward. This can be a bit time consuming depending on how the penis and foreskin is shaped. It's important to keep check on eventual swelling of the foreskin and it can take a while for the glans to adapt and toughen up as it is not longer protected. It took me weeks to be able to have my foreskin retracted at longer periods without irritation, but it differs alot for all men ☺️
So it can be good to let it rest for a day or two if it becomes to much.

Choice of underwear can help alot, and I would really recommend using "natural" methods such as folding the foreskin inwards (similar to the spoon method described elsewhere on this forum) or just by pulling it back and not try other popular methods with assistance of tape and such.

Also have in mind that there can be some permanent effects of the penis outgrowing the foreskin if it is constantly retracted in early ages, but it is not harmful.
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: McKay on 2020-11-18 16:25:30
Hi!

At first I would suggest that at first you should check wether their foreskin is too tight.
If not, then start with folding method (spoon method) (for about 3 month).
After that, they could just leave that, or should try to just pull back and leave it bunched up behind the glans (coronal ridge)
If you are interested in how should it be done, check this out: https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5ecae4cd7b09d
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: mjed on 2020-11-20 08:31:48
Quote from: Curiousmom on 2020-11-17 12:56:01
I posted this on Reddit and was directed here. πŸ™‚πŸ™

A couple weekends ago I was at my sister in laws house for the day (they have moved back into our area) and our boys were running around and in and out the pool naked as little boys do, and I noticed my nephews looked circumcised. Its been a good few years since I changed their nappies and bathed my nephews (6 and 7) but I didnt remember them being circumcised so I was rather suprised and asked her when they had been circumcised. She looked at me confused and then said "Oh! No, they aren't circumcised, they both just keep their foreskins back. James (older nephew) started leaving it back about 2 years ago and eventually Kevin started doing it too, so they both are like that all the time now." So I say I see and thats that.

Then the other day talking with my son and he asks me how come his cousins pensises look different to his, so I explain that they arent different they just prefer to keep their foreskins pulled back. He asks why. I say Im not sure. Hes says he wants to do that too, and I reply that if thats what he wants to do that's fine. A couple hours later he, clearly upset and frustrated comes to tell me his skin wont stay back and asks how. I told him Im not sure because I dont have a penis LOL but maybe it just takes practice. I ask my hubby later but he just laughs at me, partly because he finds the idea funny but mostly because he is circumcised and hasnt a clue how foreskins work! LOL.
Its evident my son is still trying to get it right but isnt having much success. I could ask my sister in law how her boys do it but that feels rather awkward. I was hoping you guys, having the right equipment LOL and experience might be able to give me some instructions as to how to keep a foreskin back to pass on to my son?

Would it be a good idea for your son to simply ask his cousins about it when they are next swimming?
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: thesevenpointfive on 2020-11-21 16:26:39
Quote from: mjed on 2020-11-20 08:31:48
Would it be a good idea for your son to simply ask his cousins about it when they are next swimming?
Just remember these are young children, but yes ask the others i am sue they would help
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Curiousmom on 2020-11-22 15:54:00
Oh wow! I didnt expect so many helpful replies!!
I actually forgot to check back and see if there had been replies.
Let me get the cooking out thw way and Ill respond properly. Thank you!!!!
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: retreactor on 2020-11-23 14:58:23
Quote from: Curiousmom on 2020-11-22 15:54:00
I actually forgot to check back and see if there had been replies.

I guess the reason is that meanwhile your boys lost their interest in this marginal dilemma - as they should. ;)
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Curiousmom on 2020-11-23 20:15:44
Quote from: RedHead on 2020-11-17 15:15:33
It's not something he should force, just tell him to pop it back each time before he pees. Tightly whiteys are the best to keep things in place. Keep it natural and as carefree as possible tell him not to focus on it. He's normal, and if he wants to keep it back just do as above pop it back whenever he remembers and eventually it will decide to stay there after being put there and will stay for longer each time.
Just don't make a big thing about it.
:)

Thank you. This is almost exactly what I told him to do, although I used the words probably and possibly and hopefully a lot more. 😊
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Curiousmom on 2020-11-23 20:17:49
Quote from: Eisen on 2020-11-17 16:47:46
That's a cute story, and congratulations for being a curious mom. I wish more moms were like this.
I would not make a big deal out of the topic, to not stress out your son. It's all a matter of preference, and the foreskin in most cases will always tend to roll back to its original position. Having said that, many people like the feeling of having the glans exposed (it may reduce a little the super-sensitivity, helps with smells, can look visually appealing), and the best and simplest initial advice is to just pull the foreskin back every time you remember, and use the underwear to hold it pulled back. I wouldn't encourage the use of any devices or more complex practices on younger kids, as their bodies will still change a lot... From my understanding, if you start pulling back earlier, you are more likely to eventually be able to keep a permanente retraction, and the body will grow up used to that state.
Devices? Oh heck no!!!! Lol!
Thank you for the help! :)
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Curiousmom on 2020-11-23 20:21:59
Quote from: thesevenpointfive on 2020-11-17 21:33:27
Can i ask how old your son is? if the two other boys started at 5, it may be that they have tight foreskins which allow the skin to stay behind the head, as the skin is still growing. Most boys of that age don't normally keep the skin back or even wash it. Your son does he keeps have any trouble pulling it back? If he where to fold it when he does it the next time ( fold the skin when the skin goes forward) that might keep his skin back and train it.
Thank you.
No he doesnt have any trouble pulling it back. The head pops out quite easily from what I can tell.
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Curiousmom on 2020-11-23 20:24:21
Quote from: Elete on 2020-11-17 23:55:09
The foreskin does usually return to it's original position in most cases. So the best advice is probably to train it to stay put by pulling it back whenever it slips foreward. This can be a bit time consuming depending on how the penis and foreskin is shaped. It's important to keep check on eventual swelling of the foreskin and it can take a while for the glans to adapt and toughen up as it is not longer protected. It took me weeks to be able to have my foreskin retracted at longer periods without irritation, but it differs alot for all men ☺️
So it can be good to let it rest for a day or two if it becomes to much.

Choice of underwear can help alot, and I would really recommend using "natural" methods such as folding the foreskin inwards (similar to the spoon method described elsewhere on this forum) or just by pulling it back and not try other popular methods with assistance of tape and such.

Also have in mind that there can be some permanent effects of the penis outgrowing the foreskin if it is constantly retracted in early ages, but it is not harmful.
Thanks so much.
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Curiousmom on 2020-11-23 20:26:20
Quote from: McKay on 2020-11-18 16:25:30
Hi!

At first I would suggest that at first you should check wether their foreskin is too tight.
If not, then start with folding method (spoon method) (for about 3 month).
After that, they could just leave that, or should try to just pull back and leave it bunched up behind the glans (coronal ridge)
If you are interested in how should it be done, check this out: https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5ecae4cd7b09d

Thank you!  That video was VERY explicit but actually very helpful. Thank you.
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Curiousmom on 2020-11-23 20:47:43
Thank you all for the help and advice. I actually ended up asking my sister in law how my nephews manage it and it turns out the older one kind of pulls back and then slowly rolls the skin back inside itself? (which I think is like your spoon method?), but now it seems to just stay in place. My younger nephew just pulled back and it stayed there and has pretty much ever since. She has never seen it forward again. (weird!) So I told my son that what his cousin does is to try pull back are far as he could without hurting himself and then slowly roll it forward and tuck it under and after a bit of practics that seems to have sort of worked. Reading your posts I seem to have told him the right thing by the look of it.
I am actually a little suprised but he has stuck with it from what I have noticed at bath time and around the pool. I was a little concerned at first because his little head looks very shiny and red and looks to me like it should be quite sore, so I did ask him about it and he said it doesnt really hurt its just very" ticklish".  I said he must let me know if it starts to hurt. Hubby says they are red when they are fist exposed.
Anyway its all very odd to me. LOL. What is it with you boys and your penises!! ! Hahaha!
Gotta say, it does look kinda cute tho! Whatever floats his boat, I guess. πŸ˜‚
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Elete on 2020-11-24 10:35:50
Yep, that sounds like the spoon method without the spoon :)
And feel free to ask more questions if there would come any :D
I hope it works out for your son!
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: McKay on 2020-11-24 12:11:07
Quote from: Curiousmom on 2020-11-23 20:47:43
Thank you all for the help and advice. I actually ended up asking my sister in law how my nephews manage it and it turns out the older one kind of pulls back and then slowly rolls the skin back inside itself? (which I think is like your spoon method?), but now it seems to just stay in place. My younger nephew just pulled back and it stayed there and has pretty much ever since. She has never seen it forward again. (weird!) So I told my son that what his cousin does is to try pull back are far as he could without hurting himself and then slowly roll it forward and tuck it under and after a bit of practics that seems to have sort of worked. Reading your posts I seem to have told him the right thing by the look of it.
I am actually a little suprised but he has stuck with it from what I have noticed at bath time and around the pool. I was a little concerned at first because his little head looks very shiny and red and looks to me like it should be quite sore, so I did ask him about it and he said it doesnt really hurt its just very" ticklish".  I said he must let me know if it starts to hurt. Hubby says they are red when they are fist exposed.
Anyway its all very odd to me. LOL. What is it with you boys and your penises!! ! Hahaha!
Gotta say, it does look kinda cute tho! Whatever floats his boat, I guess. πŸ˜‚


It seems like the more like the 2nd method, then spoon, but it doesn't really matter.
You should make sure about 2 things.
1) when it comes to bath, it should be cleaned just as usual. So wash the inner foreskin too, otherwise it may start to smell
2) if the foreskin will be tucked in over night, you (or father) should make sure, that it is not too tight during erections. (He might not necessarily wake up to that. So it's better to be safe then sorry)
Good luck with the 'project'!
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: njoynit on 2020-12-13 04:24:30
Not "just a mom". I think you are the greatest mom I know. I had no one to talk to as easily as you seem to talk with your son. CONGRATULATIONS!

You didn't say how old he is but when a boy is young he or you can pull his foreskin back as far as possible behind the glans without causing pain and it may stay there eventually. This means a few years of retracting it probably while his penis grows without enlarging the foreskin with it. For now it might be easier and better if you can monitor it to be sure it's not too tight back there. If he doesn't mind being pantless in the house It may work better, as underpants have a tendency to allow it to go forward with the movement of rubbing around in there. If it's out where it's visible that makes it easier for you to monitor it. It will also help him with the sensitivity as that allows it to get dried out by the air and would only bother him on the rare occasion that it contacts something.
The pinkness is caused by having the glans covered by the foreskin all it's life. Given time and exposure to the air it should look and feel just like your husband's.
After saying all that, I've never found a way to make mine stay back so don't be discouraged if it won't stay back.
Did I mention I wish I'd had a mom to help me when I was young? I think you're a terrific mom. :)

Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Craig on 2020-12-15 19:10:50
Quote from: njoynit on 2020-12-13 04:24:30
Not "just a mom". I think you are the greatest mom I know. I had no one to talk to as easily as you seem to talk with your son. CONGRATULATIONS!

You didn't say how old he is but when a boy is young he or you can pull his foreskin back as far as possible behind the glans without causing pain and it may stay there eventually. This means a few years of retracting it probably while his penis grows without enlarging the foreskin with it. For now it might be easier and better if you can monitor it to be sure it's not too tight back there. If he doesn't mind being pantless in the house It may work better, as underpants have a tendency to allow it to go forward with the movement of rubbing around in there. If it's out where it's visible that makes it easier for you to monitor it. It will also help him with the sensitivity as that allows it to get dried out by the air and would only bother him on the rare occasion that it contacts something.
The pinkness is caused by having the glans covered by the foreskin all it's life. Given time and exposure to the air it should look and feel just like your husband's.
After saying all that, I've never found a way to make mine stay back so don't be discouraged if it won't stay back.
Did I mention I wish I'd had a mom to help me when I was young? I think you're a terrific mom. :)

Yeah, it's pretty cool. The kid is lucky to have such a great mom.
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: John on 2021-06-10 18:12:15
I have to say, this is one of the most open, warm, rewarding, and innocent threads I have read in a long time - on any subject. It really is beautiful. The concern of the mother, the openness of the children being nude, her sister in law's responses, the humor of dad through it all, super cool. 
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: dude101 on 2021-06-10 19:28:52
Curiousmom you are a wonderful person for asking this question. Help and encourage your son to try this out. He is exploring his body and finding what he likes. If he can master this then he will always be in command of what, where, and when he is seen. His future sex life will benefit. His hygiene will benefit. All of the risks of staying forward will be gone. His future girlfriends will enjoy his capabilities. He may not stick with it and forgot about it in a week. But years from now when he is a teenager he'll remember this moment and it will be a part of his personal development as his brain starts working like an adult.

If he sticks with it. You don't need to worry about him in the locker room. Cut men have asked me what cut did I get. I had a very tight foreskin when I realized that I wanted to roll back. If your son can already roll back then he is half way there imo.

If he is determined he may try use something unsafe to hold his skin back. So provide him with medical tape or small cockring to try on. If he has trouble help him. After a few weeks. The skin will likely stay back.

Does this seem familiar in ways. Your son needs guidance from his father about his manhood. You may be looking at your son like a boy but this is his first step towards manhood. All these kinds of things are really important.

Anyways your son should talk to his cousins about what they are doing. You should encourage that peer to peer conversations. They will tell him how they've been able to do this. They can share stories and feelings together which is important.

Good luck. You are an awesome mom.

Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: njoynit on 2021-07-20 03:16:27
I think many boys are more comfortable talking to their moms about things. It never bothered me having my mom touch me either so you could possibly help him by holding it back as much as you can for him. Touching it as much as possible will help the "ticklishness" go away. Keep up the good work "awesome mom".
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: duke2244 on 2021-07-20 13:16:07
Curious... if your husband is circumcised... why didn't you have your son done?

I think auto circumcision  is an awesome option for teens and grown men like myself though if it had been my choice, I would  have just need snipped as a baby or older but before becoming sexually active. Autocircumsion is definitely good for men who wish to have the appearance of being cut without going all the way or are dealing with foreskin issues related to tightness.

Do you live in a place where that is the norm?
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: Spookyboi on 2021-07-21 21:51:10
I doubt very much that curiousmom will either see this or reply, however I commend her open mindedness and willingness to help her son.  I wish him well on his journey if he keeps going, and hope he follows the advice on keeping clean ect.
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: John on 2021-10-29 04:02:34
IMO, this is the best thread on any forum I've visited; thought I'd bring it up for new people.

Quote from: duke2244 on 2021-07-20 13:16:07
Autocircumsion is definitely good for men who wish to have the appearance of being cut without going all the way

Autocir is not for guys who want to be cut or who can't "go all the way." We love our bodies, whole and intact. We just happen to like our heads being bare. (In a wicked mood, I might say that cired guys are trying to look pulled back. 8)) 
Title: Re: Question from a mom about how.
Post by: ThePiemel on 2021-10-29 15:37:27
Classic situation: When no man is around, women tend to exchange information about everything. Men in general do not do that. How what and why is easier for women to find out and exchange. But like mommy says, about penis, she does not have one herself. So it remains assuming, guessing and hearsay. Silly boys actually. My father was rolled back. But I never dared to ask why, not did he ever talk about it or explain anything. Speaking about silly!