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Title: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-07-04 13:48:52
Hello guys i am pulled back 5 years now, the glans is dried keratinized but the same doesn't work with my inner foreskin!

It's very sticky sometimes it hurts the down side of my penis.

My way of pulling back until now has been the normal one with my fingers.

I tried to change the way by leaving exposed the inner foreskin instead of pulling back normaly put it's sticky and sensitive. By leaving it exposed does it help to be keratized?
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-07-04 16:26:54
Oh, you already asked this here ;D Yes, the inner foreskin can keratinize just like the glans.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: bobenc0 on 2017-07-04 16:46:36
when I was using my way of spoon method using only my fingers my inner foreskin was the same.. sticky and sensitive, but when I switched to simple pulled back or tape/coin/ring method my inner foreskin dried out and became just like the glans.. even tho I would love it to be a bit more dry because it gets sticky sometimes :)
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: thesevenpointfive on 2017-07-04 21:07:26
Oh, you already asked this here ;D Yes, the inner foreskin can keratinize just like the glans.

Yes, mine has dried, such that it hard, not sure if every one else is the same. I have to use some oil when rubbing as it so dry
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-07-04 21:30:40
There are some studies about keratinization of the inner foreskin using female estrogen cream, and other agents. I have written about this here. http://pulledback.org/index.php?topic=224.msg1786;topicseen#msg1786 (http://pulledback.org/index.php?topic=224.msg1786;topicseen#msg1786)
I'm not suggesting that you should use any of these methods, but I think the articles prove beyond a doubt that keratinization of the inner foreskin is possible. And if you do want to try any of the methods discussed, I would suggest CLA, because I've used it, it has helped me, and I have experienced no ill effects.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-07-06 00:12:14
And when it gets keratinized and you pull ball with the hands you stop to have discomfort? How's the sensation?

I am going to show pics of the way i use and also a new way i think of using if it's ok or i risk any phimosis in that way.

I read many topics and i am planning to try this ring:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-pcs-Stay-Hard-Donuts-Silcone-Cock-Rings-Delaying-Ejaculation-Penis-Ring-Flexible-Glue-Sex-Toys/32787071127.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.1imKz0

I never had a aliexpress account.. i made one and now when i click in add to cart or buy it it doesn't reacts... >.<
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-07-06 01:48:41
I doubt phimosis or paraphimosis would be a problem, since you've had your foreskin back for years already. It's probably too loose to cause a problem.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-07-06 12:34:20
In the first foto is my finger retracted techique.

In the second is the back of my penis. As you see i have no frenulum because it was surgically removed.

The third foto is the technique i tried to use but i notice it's too streched do i don't know if i risk  any phimosis because once in awhile it hurts so i think maybe a ring technique is better

In the last foto is my penis in normal with foreskin and you can see i have a short foreskin.


What rings do you suggest me to try? What should i check for them to be my better size and in how long do you change rings?
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-07-07 02:14:55
Wow, your foreskin IS kind of tight.. I thought it would be a lot looser after years of retraction!

Well I think the first thing to do is loosen it up a bit. Try keeping it like the third photo for a few hours at a time. If it starts hurting, or if the skin starts to swell, put it back to the first photo. Eventually it will stretch looser and stop being painful.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-07-08 23:24:15
Yesterday i did what you said for about 2 hours. Today i did it for 5 hours. I noted that i am having some burning on the down side just after the glans.. Is it balanitis? What i do to avoid it?

How much time it needs for the foreskin to get keratinized? I don't remeber how much time my glans needed :/
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-07-09 06:06:44
The frenulum does tend to get irritated at first. I don't think it's balanitis - it's probably just the sensitive skin getting sore from rubbing on your clothing.

There's no real way to say how long it'll take to get keratinized, but it usually only takes a week or two for the extreme sensitivity to calm down. Then it will be easier to keep it exposed.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-07-09 17:00:07
I agree with Soundsgreat87, what you are experiencing is probably not balanitis, just  irritation from rubbing. You can minimize the irritation during your adaptation phase by wearing a breathable fabric sleeve over your penis when you are retracted. This will minimize friction, while still allowing you to keep the glans and inner foreskin dry and exposed to air. The best thing I know to use as such a sleeve is Surgilast or MT Spandage (google them). Try to get it in a 1.5" width and cut it to length.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-07-10 00:21:12
cool thanks very much! i will try one of them out and i ll let you know! Tonight i left my foreskin exposed in the same way out and it seems better!

Once the inner foreskin gets keratinized even if i leave it normal it doesn't lose the keratinization right?

I notice i get no erection.. is it maybe because i am not used to it and i feel some anxiety by it?
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-07-10 01:39:44

Once the inner foreskin gets keratinized even if i leave it normal it doesn't lose the keratinization right?
Wrong. If you return to wearing your foreskin in the natural position, covering the glans, it will gradually dekeratinize. And so will your glans, for that matter. It won't happen immediately, but it will happen. So keeping the foreskin retracted most of the time is essential, if keeping it keratinized is your goal.


I notice i get no erection.. is it maybe because i am not used to it and i feel some anxiety by it?
I don't know. There are many factors which can cause or contribute to erectile dysfunction. Anxiety can be one, but not the only one. If it happens only infrequently, it's probably nothing to worry about. If it becomes a regular thing, you may have to look into it more closely.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-07-11 13:39:55
3rd day of using the method you Soundsgreat87 suggested me. I keep it that way more hours now until i feel discomfort plus i feel the foreskin starts to loose much more. Sensitivity starts to cease. I also start to have erections in that way and they feel comfortable until now.

I also start to wear the sleeve as you jdm suggested me around the inner foreskin sensitive part and by then i don't feel any sensitivity.

The sleeve starts to smell that disgusting smegma feel. Is it going to cease?

I wonder, will i reach a state where i wont need that sleeve anymore? What's your experience guys?

And in this way if i get used to it is more comfortable to adjust my penis than the finger one i use.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-07-15 23:52:59

... I also start to wear the sleeve as you jdm suggested me around the inner foreskin sensitive part and by then i don't feel any sensitivity.


The sleeve starts to smell that disgusting smegma feel. Is it going to cease?...
If the sleeve starts to smell, wash it, or replace it with a new one. Just like your underwear.

...I wonder, will i reach a state where i wont need that sleeve anymore? What's your experience guys?
Yes, you should reach that state. Just give it time.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-07-18 14:43:15
My experience so far!

It's been 10 days and my foreskin begins to loose a lot. I will post photos in this post.

The pain under the "frenulum" is almost gone but i will begin to feel some stickiness that is very disturbing. I feel it in the red circle in the third photo i post. To prevent that feeling i put the sleeve around this place. Sometimes however that stickiness is disturbing. How will that stickiness begin to exist? If i make it it'll be perfect.

I would like to thank you all so far who help me especially Soundsgreat87 and jdm

I bought MT Spandage yesterday!I used it alone but it hurted my penis so i figured the sensitivity didn't start to cease, so i put it around the sleeve.

I am going to post a photo of it later! I am waiting for  any suggestions! Thanks again!
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-07-18 21:30:09
Is that circled area where the skin folds? It might just be getting sweaty and sticky. You could try using some talcum powder there to reduce the moisture.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-07-18 23:48:12
Yes, it's where the skin folds!

Ok, i will try out the talcum powder as you suggested! Is that moisture going to cease someday or it will be permanent? Curius

I want to note that when i was using the finger method for pull back i had the same feeling onve in awhile that i did not like and made me think that i had not pulled back in a good way and so i was trying to pull back once again in a more correct way and more comfortable.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-07-19 01:17:37
Pretty much any skin fold will get sweaty. I think it will stop being a problem when your skin is looser and doesn't make the fold anymore.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-07-20 14:15:59
ok, i will post again once i will start having new results.

One curiosity thought, i see my foreskin gets looser and looser. Until how much loose can a foreskin get at it's regular max capabilities? Does it take a month or more until you can see your best results?

What's with your experience?

Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-07-21 05:07:11
Oh, it usually takes a few months - though you could try using some skin softening lotion (with vitamin E?) and see if that helps it stretch.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-07-23 20:19:54
Just a reminder, talcum powder has been associated with cancer. Better substitute something else, like corn starch.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-07-24 14:38:33
Ok thanks for the reminder! I used the talcum powder twice until now. It's 3 days by now i didn't use it.

I begin to feel very few stickiness by now. Looks like i am in the process of keratinization in a very good state. Actially it begins to feel great!

I like more the feeling of being simply retracted than with the finger method by now though i use a sleeve with a MT Spandage on my penis. I don't use the spandage alone because i feel some pain from the streching by it alone, so maybe i will use less sleeve in some time?

Everynight before going to sleep i always switched from pulled back to finger method. I think it's come 1st the time for me to try the simple pulled back method by today night.

I will let you know of my progress!

Thanks again for your help!
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-07-28 17:38:38
My results so far! I post fotos! Around 20 days since then? The 3rd photo is the back of my penis in the frenulum side. What do you think? I can make it in being retracted without any help? From what i see i have no issues until now rather than the burnings and stickiness which i hate very much.

Due to discomfort i tried to stop using the Mt Spandage and sleeve cuz now i feel the sensivity going to disappear.

However i still have some issues. I notice without the sleeve that i still get that burning i had in the begining i started pulling back though they are not so intense as then. Hope it ceases to exist soon.

That stickiness also i notice it still exists. If it wasn't for these it'd been great!

Last thing, can the loosiness of the foreskin be undone or there's no coming back from then? It's just a curiosity!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-07-28 20:41:37
...Last thing, can the loosiness of the foreskin be undone or there's no coming back from then? It's just a curiosity!
If you retract for very long term, such as years, and achieve complete loosening of the tip of your foreskin, it may be permanent. In order for that tip to become loose, the dartos muscles in the skin need to stop contracting. Once that happens, I'm not sure if they would ever go back to contracting, or how you might make them do that again, because they are involuntary muscles. The only thing you could really do is to keep the foreskin pulled forward, and see if they adapt back to the old way of functioning in that position. But if you have not been pulling back long term, then the looseness should largely go away, just from wearing the foreskin pulled forward again.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-07-29 00:23:21
Very well, thanks jdm!

1 more thing, if sometime after my inner foreskin has fully keratinized i decide to switch to spoon method permantly, is my inner foreskin going to dekeratinize?

Let's tell what i am thinking, through a day i am 70% of the day spoon method and 30% simply pulled back.

I am just making some ideas... my most big problem is the stickiness as i said but i hope it's gonna change soon..
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-07-29 02:13:07
Yes, if you keep the skin spooned the inner skin should dekeratinize.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-08-13 18:52:02
Hello guys, i have been missing for 2 weeks and i had no internet so now i come with all my news and photos! :)

During this weeks i changed to a shorter sleeve, then i tried to add to the sleeve using a simple ponytail scrhuncie (not the tube) but it hurted me the distance between the glans head and the foreskin, it burned me more specifically. However i kept wearing it but it still looks like that method is not comfortable for me for now.

I noticed i enjoy more masturbation now that the foreskin is in process of keratinization. I like more that new feeling. It's deeper.

I slept wearing mt spandage everynight and at the beginning i woke up in the morning with erection that hurted me until sometime it ceased to hurt me. But wearing the mt spandage with the sleeve at night i see it changes the position of my foreskin, it looks like it tries to return to normal even though it's blocked in the process by the glans head.

However, the last time i did sleep pulled back i was sleeping simply pulled back without any protection and i noticed that my foreskin once i retract it it stays back normally and i did not have any hurt with the morning erection. But there's a serius problem here at least for me. The stickiness never ceases and that's what i hate the most.

When i bath i pull over my foreskin and when i finish i dry as much i can the outer and inner foreskin but that dryness never ceases to stop.

Today when i came back home as i mentioned i noticed the the silicone glans ring i ordered just arrived. The pack has 4. I choosed 1 and as someone instructed me here i put on it some alcohol, washed it and put it on. For now it seems fine.

There are some thing i want to mention too:

Now the spoon method i use is much more comfortable since the foreskin loosened. I enjoy it more. I still prefer the spoon method for now. The feeling of having the foreskin inside and the glans out.
But the spoon method i see is harder to achieve even though

I don't know how it would feel  once my inner foreskin will fully keratinize however. May i will like simple pulled back at last?

I noticed that i like the feeling when i don't feel my foreskin. I want to try the scrhuncie tube method too.

Here i post some photos:

1st is simple pulled back
2nd is the back of my penis simple pulled back
3rd my penis now with foreskin
4th the silicone glans ring i received today

Waiting for your suggestions and opinion as more experienced pulled back you are! :)
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-08-14 02:02:10
The pictures are a bit blurry, but it looks to me like in the ones marked simply pulled back, that the foreskin is actually folded over itself, like a reverse spoon method. That could be effecting the comfort level.

I think that you are right in your guess that, once your foreskin keratinizes, you will probably like simply pulling back better.

If you continue to have problems with moisture, you might want to try some sort of drying agents. Several members here have experimented with applying rubbing alcohol/surgical spirits to the glans and inner foreskin, and claim that this has helped them dry out the area. I have tried this a few times without any adverse effects, but I didn't continue to do it long enough to comment on how much it might help with drying. I will just caution you not to do it if your skin is at all irritated, because alcohol/spirits can really sting if you have any little cracks abrasions on the skin. You may also wish to experiment with the application of corn starch powder, liquid silica, and even conjugated linoleic acid (CLA). The corn starch is simply a moisture absorber, like talcum powder, only safer. It should be applied whenever you feel moisture building up. Liquid silica is more of a moisture blocker, so I'm not sure if it would really help you, but you could try it. CLA is more of a keratinizing agent than a drying agent. It helps accelerate keratinization, and may help with comfort as related to exposure of overly sensitive glans or foreskin. But I'm not sure if it would help you with moisture. Another thing that might help with drying is bar soap. Lots of bar soaps, like basic Dial and Zest tend to dry out the skin. I have used it on my penis without any problems.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-08-19 17:29:42
Yo guys i bring news!

I tried the cock ring method but it turned uncomfortable for me.

But i used the scrhuncie tube method and it proved very comfortable for me. The inner foreskin sensitivity also begins to cease completely. I think in about 2-3 weeks it will be completely keratinized?

 As for the scrhuncie tube method i had difficulty to find the exact size for me. The most schuncies i see are oversized. I sewed the tips of each tube to not open more. The method i use to wear it is keep pull back, wear it around until the glans and release the pull back so the skin of the inner foreskin remains around the cotton.

I also posts photos so you can also give me more suggestions and ideas.

jdm may i ask how do some people here stay pulled back? It's a way of habit you need to put to the foreskin? And how do you achieve it? Thanks!


Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: anon21 on 2017-08-20 00:18:21
Most recently I started to use coin method. But I do it intermittently so things like keratinization or desensitization aren't kicking in significantly yet. I'm having some hurdles with the fact that I do shave down there, when I use coin method, because of my dick size the foreskin fold reaches close to the bottom of the shaft, and when pubic stubble is around it's bothering me haha.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: headytimes on 2017-08-20 04:31:15
Hi Silverhawk, some of us are lucky and can staypulled back without any methods. Perhaps the phimotic band is just tighter. I think this is the case for me, once my foreskin is pulled back it can stay there almost permanently. To be honest if this was not the case I doubt I would have started this journey.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-08-21 02:49:25
jdm may i ask how do some people here stay pulled back? It's a way of habit you need to put to the foreskin? And how do you achieve it? Thanks!
I'm not sure I completely understand the question. There are many methods, used by various members here. Everyone has his own preference. You can see a number of options explained in the Informal autocircumcision techniques guide, found here. http://pulledback.org/index.php?topic=18.0
There are some other methods, which are not included there, but which are discussed in various other thread elsewhere on the forum. You'll just need to look around. If you are asking how some men achieve a permanent state of retraction, where they don't have to use any special gimmicks to keep the foreskin back anymore, the idea is, indeed that you train your foreskin to form a habit of staying back. This is generally done by simply keeping the foreskin pulled back, by whichever technique you like best, for as long as possible. Over a period of months to years of keeping the foreskin pulled back, it will become trained to stay that way on its own. This is explained in reasonably well on the Kumakkey web site. Here are links to two particular pages, which compare the foreskin to different types of springs. In this analogy, a normal foreskin is analogous to a compression spring, and a trained foreskin becomes more like a tension spring. Have a look. Use google translate to read the pages in your language.
http://kumakkey.com/kioku1.htm
http://kumakkey.com/kioku2.htm
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: Hazeleye on 2017-08-21 03:52:19
Over a period of months to years of keeping the foreskin pulled back, it will become trained to stay that way on its own. This is explained in reasonably well on the Kumakkey web site. Here are links to two particular pages, which compare the foreskin to different types of springs. In this analogy, a normal foreskin is analogous to a compression spring, and a trained foreskin becomes more like a tension spring.

To take what jdm is saying a step further, it is not only the foreskin that needs to take the form of a tension spring, but the shaft skin as well. Younger gents with thicker skin will take on deep folds/wrinkles if properly retained back without artificial means. If one can achieve this, it then becomes impossible for the foreskin to cover the glans at all without special taping to stay covered.

This is where those that do have sufficient length to achieve this deep shaft folding keep perpetuating the need to use these means to stay retracted by not achieving this. Bin there, done that if anyone wants further info.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-08-22 11:58:23
Interesting. I'd like more info, Hazeleye.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: Hazeleye on 2017-08-23 05:00:13
I will give you a little of my history, for what it is worth, jdm. Over 60 years ago, in an attempt to be pulled back, I had come across the info that the frenum needed to be freed to facilitate this state. I was able to thin it which did allow a better pulled back. I also developed a rubber ring that I have discussed earlier, made from liquid latex, to hold the foreskin back.

However, these steps never did give me the perfect ability to stay back freely. It wasn't until I started to wear snug briefs later that I was able to achieve perfection. I am a bit in the shower category so the following may be one sided for some. When I was dressing, or placing the penis back after relieving, I would pull the shaft skin well up so the foreskin then was smoother. In addition, I would ensure that the penis was not hanging down around the scrotum but was resting high up on it with the snug brief holding it in place. This would ensure that any downward movement of the glans would keep the shaft skin still high and folded with the foreskin not having folds.

I did this process over a few years when I decided that I wanted the foreskin to cover the glans again. I found that the shaft skin then was so tightly folded that it was impossible for it to stay that way without taping the prepuce, as in an artificial phimosis. It took some 5 years of taping before it would finally stay covered over the glans. By the way, the foreskin/glans had become so dried out that I had to then apply a cream of some sort to provide artificial lubricant for those years.

With the shaft skin having smoothed out over some 26 years, now it was not only the glans having to get used to being exposed again, but also the foreskin staying pulled back. However, with the shaft skin being thinner, it forms finer folds making the ability to stay pulled back easier so that I can stay pulled back without any aids of any kind again.

What I have described may not be of interest to those that choose not to have their frenums freed or choose not to wear restrictive items of any sort. But if it is of any interest to you, jdm, all the best!
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-08-23 18:55:48
Thanks for sharing your story and tips, Hazeleye. Just a point of clarification about your frenulum, though. You've used the terms "freed" and "thin" in your description. When I read "freed" I jumped to the impression that you had cut, tied off, or otherwise detached your frenulum. But then you said that you were able to "thin" it, which makes me think that maybe you used some sort of steroid cream to make it thinner and stretch it out. Can you elaborate on what you actually did with out frenulum?
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: Hazeleye on 2017-08-24 03:28:55
Sorry, jdm, regarding the frenulum. Originally years ago, as a young guy not knowing what I know today, I did what would be called a mini tie-off on the frenulum with needle and thread just below the pee-hole to deaden the tissue. Left it for a few minutes and then took a sharp razor blade and started cutting the frenum back along the cord at that point, thinning it. This did not totally remove it as in the tying-off of today, but I did end up with a much thinner cord. I did this process to further the freeing a few more times to extend the freed area.

Over the years it did serve me quite well. Since there is not a major blood source, little blood was realized since I avoided the soft tissue below. Also, there are few nerves around the cord, so not much pain realized, notwithstanding the frenulum is supposed to provide pleasure when lateral force is applied.

You were enquiring if a cream of some sort was used. No, just the process described. Today, I would have used the tie-off process as described elsewere. In fact, to free the frenulum further, I have tied the cord off fully recently. That was how I made the statement earlier on another thread regarding those that were attempting to stretch their frenums that there are fibrous cords inside very similar to an ordinary tendon. I was wondering how much actual stretching of such a tendon could take place.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-08-28 13:39:54
Very interesting the links you sent me jdm! They are really helpful in understanding the foreskin functions!

Did you manage to achieve that method too like Hazeleye?

I am thinking of trying by putting the Silicone ring i bought on the other side of the penis and pulling over to other side the foreskin. I am going to post a pic when i get it.

When i wash in the bath and i pull over the foreskin i notice it remains in the position i leave it for around 5 seconds and goes under the glans like photos i post so i hope to have a posibility to make it.

Did everyone in this forum achieved this method? It looks like being circumcised and at the same time uncicumcised!

Hazeleye said it took too many time to achieve this method. How about the others?

Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-08-28 19:30:18
Very interesting the links you sent me jdm! They are really helpful in understanding the foreskin functions!
Glad I could  help.
Did you manage to achieve that method too like Hazeleye?
No. I have never tried to achieve truly permanent retraction. I pull back intermittently, for periods of various duration. Sometimes days, sometimes weeks, sometimes months. But I've never done it for longer than three months. Now, three months is the duration which many Japanese retraction aid manufacturers claim is the minimum you might have to wear the foreskin pulled back, before it stays back on its own. In my experience, it generally does stay back much better after three months, but sometimes still wants to roll forward. However, I generally don't keep it retracted during sleep, so I'm not really keeping it back 24/7 for three month. More like 16/7. Also, I have not cut, or tied off my frenulum. I am working on stretching it, although not very aggressively, but I don't want to detach it.
I am thinking of trying by putting the Silicone ring i bought on the other side of the penis and pulling over to other side the foreskin. I am going to post a pic when i get it.
I don't fully understand what you mean, so I'll wait to see your pic before commenting.
When i wash in the bath and i pull over the foreskin i notice it remains in the position i leave it for around 5 seconds and goes under the glans like photos i post so i hope to have a posibility to make it.
Absolutely you do. :)
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-08-28 21:36:15
No. I have never tried to achieve truly permanent retraction. I pull back intermittently, for periods of various duration. Sometimes days, sometimes weeks, sometimes months. But I've never done it for longer than three months. Now, three months is the duration which many Japanese retraction aid manufacturers claim is the minimum you might have to wear the foreskin pulled back, before it stays back on its own. In my experience, it generally does stay back much better after three months, but sometimes still wants to roll forward. However, I generally don't keep it retracted during sleep, so I'm not really keeping it back 24/7 for three month. More like 16/7. Also, I have not cut, or tied off my frenulum. I am working on stretching it, although not very aggressively, but I don't want to detach it.

Glad you shared me your way of being pulled back! :)

As for me i liked the spoon method for years now! But sometimes it gets too ichy and hurts me and sometimes i am not able to achieve it as i like! I prefer to go 24/7 pulled back on spoon method except from when i bath or i clean my inner foreskin once a day!

But when i have sex i prefer to pull over and have sex as an uncircumcised man. However when i put the condom i pull back again!

Well i just tried it now! It's only 15 minutes since then!

I begun using 1 silicone ring and then i remembered the method with the 2 metalic rings and added a 2nd silicone ring. The feeling i get now except from the strecthing i feel is even better from my spoon method.

I am so impressed with the human body.  I remember myself that it hurted me so much when i was just going pulled back to make my inner foreskin keratinized at the beggining. I even remember that iches i had under the frenulum. I like the fact i got nothing of it now!

Well i post the photos jdm! I need your opinion and the opinion of the other retractors! :)

The first pic is the cock ring in the middle of my penis and i pull all the foreskin under it

In the second the method is same but i added another ring under the glans supposing the skin wond reach the glans. :) Opinions! :)

Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-08-28 23:37:06
I post more news from my previous post. I was able to maintain that method for not so much.. i need to find a comfortable and easy method that can help me receive permanent retraction... any ideas?
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-08-28 23:55:36
Sorry for the 3 posts, i can't see the edit button around here. I want to add that even though it was difficult i even began to see good signs of a future permanent retraction after i removed the rings as the foreskin reached the glans and some of it remained near it and it didn't unfold behind the glans like it normally does.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-08-29 16:12:55
I'm not sure why you would wear the second ring half way down on the shaft like that. The one right behind the glans makes sense, because it will prevent the skin from covering the glans. But what is the purpose of the other ring? I could understand wearing a second ring right behind the first one, because this would act like one long ring, and keep the foreskin pulled back even further. But the way you are doing it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Can you explain the logic?
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-08-29 16:17:06
If you find wearing the ring uncomfortable, you may need to experiment with different sizes and shapes. The ring may be too tight, or something. Can you describe in what way it is uncomfortable?
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-08-30 12:28:31
I feel the ring unrolls itself near the foreskin and in that way it reaches the glans of my penis!

I removed the 2nd ring later. Today i am trying again with 1 ring. It also feels streching, not too much, i don't know if that's ok. But i think it decreases the will to pee but i can't be sure, it may be psychological

I was using the 2nd ring to stop the foreskin to reach the glans but since when my foreskin reaches the glans unfolds itself under it you are right that there's no point in putting it.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-08-30 13:59:33
This is the ring i use:

(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1fiRONpXXXXa1apXXq6xXFXXXO/202481931/HTB1fiRONpXXXXa1apXXq6xXFXXXO.jpg?size=73817&height=850&width=850&hash=32c80b9dc2ba6a886ae7268baa2df3d0)

The 1.8cm in witdth is too tight for me as my penis width is around 4.1cm regularly.

Maybe a silicone ring with 3.5cm is better for me such as this? The design of the currect one maybe i helps to not roll? What do you think?

(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1.j9kRXXXXXaNXFXXq6xXFXXXa.jpg?size=81161&height=800&width=800&hash=fb45184fa31eeaa547b48fdbd0a7f9cd)
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: jdm on 2017-08-30 21:09:33
I definitely think that the second type of ring would be better in terms of not rolling. I'm not sure if the shape might be less comfortable, though. Regarding the size, another factor to consider is the elasticity of the material. Different formulations of silicone stretch to differing degrees. This can effect comfort as well. But you probably won't know for sure until you try it.
Title: Re: Inner Foreskin Sensitivity
Post by: SilverHawk on 2017-09-01 16:08:10
i need to find the right shape for me now! haha they're not expensive all these things but the bad thing is they do 1 month to reach in my country! I ordered 2 of them and i am looking forward to order some other type that could help me achieve the permanent rectraction in the aliexpress.com list! xD

Btw, I live in Greece!