a question to the fathers here: do you / would you teach your sons to keep foreskin retracted? it's not about forcing them to do it. but educate them on the benefits of a bare glans. who has done it, what was the reaction of the sons?
and at what age would it be ideal to introduce them to the subject. i would have been happy if my father had done it.
Get them started BEFORE their penis starts secondary growth. In doing so, they have much more chances of getting a foreskin that retracts permanently without any gimmick. The Japanese have been doing so for ages.
Regards
Quote from: newhorisons on 2021-07-08 03:19:33
Get them started BEFORE their penis starts secondary growth. In doing so, they have much more chances of getting a foreskin that retracts permanently without any gimmick. The Japanese have been doing so for ages.
Regards
11 to 13 years might be the right time to do so. If they feel severe pain, they might have phimosis and the parent must seek medical advice(you might have to get them cut).
Hi! Since i was 4-5 yo my dad always told me to remember to pull back my foreskin at bathtime and to urinate. He periodically checked himself if my prepuce was properly retractable and clean. When i was about 10/11, during one of this man-to-man moments he suggested to try to keep it always pulled back as "grown men" do, i was very excited to be considered a "real man" so i gradually tried to leave the foreskin back but it was not easy because my childish prepuce rolled forward very easyly. A few months later he asked me how my "jurney to manhood" was going and i explained to him the reasons why it was so difficult and he told me to persevere and that he would take me to the doctor to make sure there were no problems. The doctor found residual adhesions at the level of the sulcus and with a fairly painful but very rapid maneuver he broke them, he prescribed an ointment to be applied for a few days and also advised my father to have me undergo a frenulotomy. I was scared and reticent but my father did not listen to my reasons and booked it a few days after the end of the school. When I healed everything was more comfortable, keeping the foreskin back was so easy and i started to skin back 24/7. If i had sons i would certainly introduce them on pulling back
I wish my foreskin pulled back when i was between 4 and 5!
Quote from: Craig on 2021-07-09 09:28:56
I wish my foreskin pulled back when i was between 4 and 5!
Me too! :'(
Quote from: newhorisons on 2021-07-09 10:10:22
Me too! :'(
maybe not as early but in any case before puberty. with the growth of the penis and the associated enlargement of the glans it could be helpful that the foreskin once and forever remains retracted.
are there any examples here where this was the case?
I think as early as it will would be good. That would help it to stretch so it will retract easily and it should get the glans accustomed to being exposed and rubbing against clothing. It might help it stay back too.
Quote from: newhorisons on 2021-07-08 04:21:50
11 to 13 years might be the right time to do so. If they feel severe pain, they might have phimosis and the parent must seek medical advice(you might have to get them cut).
That's about when I started to keep mine pulled back.
Quote from: newhorisons on 2021-07-08 04:21:50
11 to 13 years might be the right time to do so. If they feel severe pain, they might have phimosis and the parent must seek medical advice(you might have to get them cut).
Excuse me but that's nonsense. At least speaking in such general terms.
The glans could be causing the severe pain due to sensitivity and it has nothing to do with phimosis. And in most cases phimosis (especially ones where the foreskin can be retracted) can be fixed without surgical intervention (even in grown-ups — there's even a handful of people on this very forum who had a tight foreskin that they stretched themselves).
Quote from: andy on 2021-07-07 19:26:13
a question to the fathers here: do you / would you teach your sons to keep foreskin retracted? it's not about forcing them to do it. but educate them on the benefits of a bare glans. who has done it, what was the reaction of the sons?
and at what age would it be ideal to introduce them to the subject. i would have been happy if my father had done it.
I would teach them at an early age about 5 teach them the benefit of it, keep it clean and get the feel and benefit of keeping it back. It would be up to him if he carries on.
Quote from: thesevenpointfive on 2021-07-25 17:18:49
I would teach them at an early age about 5 teach them the benefit of it, keep it clean and get the feel and benefit of keeping it back. It would be up to him if he carries on.
imho 5 years could be too young. i think a boy at this age does not understand the benefits... probably 8 to 10 but in any case before puberty may work.
a permanent or temporary rectraction before the penis starts to grow may help to keep the glans uncovered.
Quote from: andy on 2021-07-26 19:37:25
imho 5 years could be too young. i think a boy at this age does not understand the benefits... probably 8 to 10 but in any case before puberty may work.
a permanent or temporary rectraction before the penis starts to grow may help to keep the glans uncovered.
I agree before puberty would help
Quote from: andy on 2021-07-26 19:37:25
imho 5 years could be too young. i think a boy at this age does not understand the benefits... probably 8 to 10 but in any case before puberty may work.
a permanent or temporary rectraction before the penis starts to grow may help to keep the glans uncovered.
I think boys should start training their foreskin to stay back as soon as it separates from the glans. I think by 10 it should be explained to them the benefits of full keratinization of their glans.
Quote from: Jake18 on 2021-07-26 22:45:36
I think boys should start training their foreskin to stay back as soon as it separates from the glans. I think by 10 it should be explained to them the benefits of full keratinization of their glans.
it could (should) be part of sexual education. many boys at this age question why some boys are circumcised, how it feels, what the advantages and disadvantages are. it also makes sense to explain the cleaning of the glans and foreskin, whether to protect them from damage to health.
Quote from: Jake18 on 2021-07-26 22:45:36
I think boys should start training their foreskin to stay back as soon as it separates from the glans. I think by 10 it should be explained to them the benefits of full keratinization of their glans.
I would also say that this helps get any lesions they might get.
My father taught me to keep my foreskin retracted starting when I was 9 and I kept the tradition going with our oldest son who is now 13 and four years into keeping his foreskin back. I just started with our youngest son and seems interested into working towards full-time retraction.
Quote from: ej3939 on 2021-08-08 15:16:07
My father taught me to keep my foreskin retracted starting when I was 9 and I kept the tradition going with our oldest son who is now 13 and four years into keeping his foreskin back. I just started with our youngest son and seems interested into working towards full-time retraction.
From your own experience, what remains of/how did your foreskin develop with your journey beginning so young?
About what generation does your father come from? (n.b., from my nudist thread I've expressed a belief that being pulled back was popular among America's immigrants during c.1900-1950.)
How do you keep track of your sons? Are you nudists or do they verbally bring you up to date?
Good for you, ej!
Quote from: John on 2021-08-08 17:27:51
From your own experience, what remains of/how did your foreskin develop with your journey beginning so young?
About what generation does your father come from? (n.b., from my nudist thread I've expressed a belief that being pulled back was popular among America's immigrants during c.1900-1950.)
How do you keep track of your sons? Are you nudists or do they verbally bring you up to date?
Good for you, ej!
When my father started teaching me how to retract I was 9yo, I started little by little and by the time I was 10 he had me retracted 24/7 like he was and still is to this day. By the time I was 16-17 my foreskin would stay retracted by itself even when I was flaccid.
My father was born in 1940, not sure how he started but he always told me it was important to have the "head" out.
We are not technically nudists but at our home we have a swimming pool and most of the time we swim nude. They are also very open with me about everything.
Our oldest is 13 now and has seen big changes to his glans, I'm no expert but I think he has reached that full keratinization stage.
Quote from: ej3939 on 2021-08-08 20:18:06
When my father started teaching me how to retract I was 9yo, I started little by little and by the time I was 10 he had me retracted 24/7 like he was and still is to this day. By the time I was 16-17 my foreskin would stay retracted by itself even when I was flaccid.
My father was born in 1940, not sure how he started but he always told me it was important to have the "head" out.
We are not technically nudists but at our home we have a swimming pool and most of the time we swim nude. They are also very open with me about everything.
Our oldest is 13 now and has seen big changes to his glans, I'm no expert but I think he has reached that full keratinization stage.
Well done, and very natural! It's also a good father/son bonding time.
Quote from: ej3939 on 2021-08-08 20:18:06
When my father started teaching me how to retract I was 9yo, I started little by little and by the time I was 10 he had me retracted 24/7 like he was and still is to this day. By the time I was 16-17 my foreskin would stay retracted by itself even when I was flaccid.
My father was born in 1940, not sure how he started but he always told me it was important to have the "head" out.
Maybe a weird question, but what's your ethnicity / lineage, I wonder if it's some place where retraction is more common anyway :)
Quote from: Kylar on 2021-08-10 09:12:54
Maybe a weird question, but what's your ethnicity / lineage, I wonder if it's some place where retraction is more common anyway :)
Our ancestors were from Germany
Quote from: andy on 2021-07-27 19:51:44
it could (should) be part of sexual education. many boys at this age question why some boys are circumcised, how it feels, what the advantages and disadvantages are. it also makes sense to explain the cleaning of the glans and foreskin, whether to protect them from damage to health.
I agree actually regarding education. I was very confused in my younger years as to if I was or wasn't circumcised. I had heard the term, but didn't really understand as nobody had ever explained it properly
Quote from: ej3939 on 2021-08-11 23:57:52
Our ancestors were from Germany
Hmm, definitely puzzled then how this became a family tradition then ^^
Quote from: Kylar on 2021-08-12 09:22:53
Hmm, definitely puzzled then how this became a family tradition then ^^
I believe my father started retracting to look like the other boys in school as we have a very high circumcision rate here in the USA.
Quote from: ej3939 on 2021-08-12 16:04:31
I believe my father started retracting to look like the other boys in school as we have a very high circumcision rate here in the USA.
Yes, I was going to say that might be the case. But then why did he not have you circumcised as the next generation? And did you think of having your sons cut, or did you want to leave them to choose for themselves, which is becoming more common in the USA I understand.
In my family only discussion about foreskin happened was about whether it has become retractable or not. I remember when I was like 4 my parents would frequently ask or sometime even check my elder brothers who was 10 to see if his foreskin has become retractable. I have seen my elder brother doing stretching and one day he was able to pull back. Same happened when I was 10. Luckily within few months mine became retractable. I wish if someone had told me to keep it retracted I would have started at that age.
Quote from: jamestrt1 on 2021-08-12 16:16:49
Yes, I was going to say that might be the case. But then why did he not have you circumcised as the next generation? And did you think of having your sons cut, or did you want to leave them to choose for themselves, which is becoming more common in the USA I understand.
My parents told me circumcision should be left up to each individual and that is why I was not circumcised and same for my sons. Here in the USA something like 70% are circumcised which seems like a very high number considering most are not religious based circumcisions.
I guess what I'm curious about is how you convince them to follow through with it.
The first time I ever tried keeping my skin back I must have been about 15, and I just remember how incredibly uncomfortable it felt. The head rubbing against my underwear was borderline painful, and it took a good two weeks before it was bearable. I was suitably motivated at the time because it was something I wanted to do, so I stuck it out. If it's someone else telling you to do it, and it hurts, then I can't see why they wouldn't beinclined to just stop at the first opportunity.
i had an older cousin educate me, I saw him naked once when I was around 10 or 11, and his head was veeery mushroomy even though the shaft was normal, the head really really was abnormally bigger than the shaft. In later years, as I remembered the shape of his penis, I got obsessed with it, so one time I asked him, and he told me I wanted to start staying pulled back as long as possible, to let the head grow out. He said he couldn't possibly cover it even though he wasn't cut, and he said it's probable that skin lost the battle against head and had to stay back and the skin stopped growing. He also told me to clench the penis to force blood in. And told me all about sensitivity and dry masturbation and smell and even told me about the "being ready for sex" any time, it doesn't smell bad, it isn't oversensitive... and told me ladies actually like the appearance better. And boy was he right.