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Offline penismaster21

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Hi, I am very interested in foreskin retraction, but I have a couple of questions, and I would really like to get some insights.

1) how do you guys masturbate? Uncircumcised guys masturbate by rolling the foreskin up and down, but circumcised guys often just use lube and run over the head too? I also see some circumcised guys in porn masturbate by just jerking behind the glans. Idk, it's just really confusing. Or can I just roll it back but masturbate like an uncircumcised person (pulling the skin forward during masturbation only)?

2) I have also heard of stories which says some guys roll back for a certain period of time. Then the foreskin gets so tight that they end up having to circumcise? That sounds really scary. Can someone advise on this? I do know for a fact that the foreskin will adjust to the size it is being wrapped around. The foreskin will contract if it is pulled back, since it is not stretched by the size of the glans, and it will also get shorter, from some stories and anecdotes that say that the skin naturally stays back after a long time. But this forced circumcision from the blood flow being restricted and skin getting too right really scares me, and this is where my biggest concern comes about.

3) I have seen some photos where the glans look really flaky as progress pics. Are those just glans in the midst of hardening, and the flaky skin will fall off and it will look normal after that?

4) is it true that pulling back can aid in the head getting bigger since there isn't the foreskin to restrict it from "growing"?

5) is the desensitisation permanent? If I roll it forward after an extended period of time, will the sensitivity come back?

Really hope you guys can answer my questions, and help me to make an informed decision, cause I really wish to do this safely. If it matters, I'm one of the lucky few who can roll the foreskin back and it'll just stay there without slipping back down. I don't have any issues with tight or loose foreskin as well.
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Hi.

I can only recommend to keep it retracted.
Better in any way.
But I'd like to share my experience, and I hope I can answer those questions.

1) I do masturbate besides the fact that I have a wife and an active sexual life. The method depends on the mood. Its not like you have to stick to a certain masturbation technique just to protect your progress.
If you want permanent retraction some time later then I recommend that however you do it, spend time to restore the clean, dry and pulled back state after it.
On methods. If you are using any rings and stuff then you probably should take them off before.
Obviously spoon method will be scrumbled and you need to restore that after.
I in fact now am able to keep it retracted by just simply pulling back. So no matter how jucy the event was I just clean it dry and it stays.
If i masturbate with my foreskin, I use lube and that feels like old ways. But I really like the cut guys way too.
I pull bak my skin with my feft hand and with lots of lube i grab and rub my whole stuff but mainly taking time over thd glans.

2) That is true if you leave it forward for a while it can ruin your progress. But to get circ at the end, nah that should be a serious phimosis which does not occur that fast.

3) Flasky?
Yeah as the skin dries out it can change the look of the glans but for the good i guess.

4) yeah. totally true. Mine is bigger too. not so noticable but helps the skin stay behind. I like it.

5) Havent tried that. I would say yes. But it doesn't mean that you wont feel a thing from now on. It means 10 extra minutes for me in sex. And the feeling that I cant tell during the day that is my foreskin still back?
You totally will feel your partner as good as previously.

I hope I helped.
Good luck.
You can keep us updated of your progress.

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Dicsolovag has provided a comprehensive response to your inquiries, penismaster 21. I can only add my further experiences:

1. As far as how to masturbate, my suggestion would be original and do whatever pleases you at the moment. After all, most guys get quite bored doing the exact same thing over and over.

2. As you suggest, the foreskin pulled back will loosen further, with no problem as long as extreme phimosis is not involved. The foreskin will not shrink in size to create phimosis any time it is pulled back; it will only get looser. It is a myth that being pulled back creates a shorter foreskin. While it may appear to be shorter when pulled forward, this is due to wrinkling of the shaft skin (especially so if steps have been taken to do so).

3. As far as the glans being flaky, that depends on each guy's response. I once was continuously pulled back for 30 years and originally did experience a slight amount during the initial keratinization period, but after awhile did not appear any different than normal.

4. Most guys do experience flaring of the glans when they have been fully exposed for a long time. Again, this is an individual trait as to the amount.

5. As far as the desensitization goes, yes, if you stayed pulled forward for a number of years it will return. Maybe not as much as before being pulled back, but it will return. Of course, as one gets older, sensitivity lessens at any rate. I only wished that when I was pulled back that I had the desenitization that Dicsolovag described! I still needed desenitizing product to permit for longer action. Some like to be pulled back for a period, then being forward for a period. This will give a median of sensitivity, not as sharp nor as dull.

All the best penismaster 21 in your endeavours!

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1   You can masturbate like a cut guy, but why change what you do, if you want to try and do that, it’s a good experience and will give you a feel as to how it feels. I hold the skin back and do that. If your, head is dry enough you don’t need lube as the head is harder.

2   No the skin will not get tight, it will become loser, some who have tried this have had issues with pulling there skins back, and when they do have trouble getting it back over, but that is rare. The skin will get lose,  I am afraid will not get shorter, where is the skin to go, it doesn’t disappear. Also you keep mentioning circ’ed, some people say that after years of being pulled back, you might consider it, but its your choice

3   The head will dry out, not sure I have seen flaky. The colour changes, from a deepish red, some to purple some to a faded red, but this is different for each person.

4   I am 50/50 on this, at one stage I though not, but recently with some serious prolonged pulled back, the shape and size has changed, it a subtle change, but picture I have show the difference. What you want is the head to flare which aids with the retraction.

5    Like most I don’t think it really is, I think, that if you do it for long you do lose some sensitivity. I feel that an Inch of skin behind my corona has changed and looks dry, and if I do get my skin to go forward, I have noticed that the head is still dry and the skin over it is dry. That is just my experience 

6   The question I would ask you, is why do you want to start, it does not hurt but takes effort. Choose a method that suits you, you may have to experiment with a few. You will have to work at it as It will take time, but then one day you will forget you are back and feel better. Again, as you mention circumcision, if you feel a few years don the road that you like keeping it back and you have done so for years, then consider it, but remember you don’t get the skin back
Love skining back and letting my head show

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1) how do you guys masturbate? Uncircumcised guys masturbate by rolling the foreskin up and down, but circumcised guys often just use lube and run over the head too? I also see some circumcised guys in porn masturbate by just jerking behind the glans. Idk, it's just really confusing. Or can I just roll it back but masturbate like an uncircumcised person (pulling the skin forward during masturbation only)?
You can masturbate however you want. If your goal is the fastest possible path to permanent retraction, then keeping it pulled back all the time, even when masturbating, is probably your best bet. But if you're not in that much of a hurry, you can roll the foreskin up and down to masturbate. But I would recommend that you always pull it well back after you finish, and leave it pulled back. Because this will help the foreskin to more quickly adapt to the pulled back position, as it relaxes into it after you orgasm. I am an intermittent retracter. So I sometimes stay retracted for weeks or months, then go back to the covered position. I tend to masturbate by either rolling the skin on and off of the head, or by keeping it pulled back, and just jerking it behind the head. Usually when I'm in a retracted phase, I will keep the foreskin retracted during masturbation. If I'm in a covered phase, I could go either way, depending on my mood. If you're using the tape, or liquid latex method, than you obviously have to keep retracted during masturbation.



2) I have also heard of stories which says some guys roll back for a certain period of time. Then the foreskin gets so tight that they end up having to circumcise? That sounds really scary. Can someone advise on this? I do know for a fact that the foreskin will adjust to the size it is being wrapped around. The foreskin will contract if it is pulled back, since it is not stretched by the size of the glans, and it will also get shorter, from some stories and anecdotes that say that the skin naturally stays back after a long time. But this forced circumcision from the blood flow being restricted and skin getting too right really scares me, and this is where my biggest concern comes about.

You are talking about paraphimosis. This condition occurs with men who have a phimosis (the opening at the tip of their foreskin is too tight) and still pull back the foreskin behind the glans. In this situation, when the head swells, the foreskin can become trapped behind the glans, and restrict blood supply to the glans. But if you can comfortably pull the foreskin behind the glans when you are erect, you have nothing to worry about.


3) I have seen some photos where the glans look really flaky as progress pics. Are those just glans in the midst of hardening, and the flaky skin will fall off and it will look normal after that?
Flakiness is not common, except during a transitional phase. But the glans will dry out, and keratinize (develop a thicker/tougher outer layer) the longer that you keep it exposed. This will tend to result in a more wrinkled appearance when flaccid, but should still look smooth when erect. The color will also tend to change to more closely resemble that of your shaft. Just look at how circumcised glans look, and you will get a reasonable idea of what to expect.


4) is it true that pulling back can aid in the head getting bigger since there isn't the foreskin to restrict it from "growing"?
That is a subject of much debate. I think that for some this may be true. But for others, not so much.


5) is the desensitisation permanent? If I roll it forward after an extended period of time, will the sensitivity come back?
It will definitely come back. Just look at all the accounts of men who do "foreskin restoration". Being an intermittent retracter, I see my sensitivity change white a bit when I go back and forth from log term retraction to covered, and back. In my case, it never gets back to quite the level of sensitivity that it had before I started retracting. But that might be because I never stop retracting for all that long. All I can say for sure is that the more you stay retracted, the more your sensitivity will decrease. The more you stay covered, the more it will tend to increase. In either case, based on my experience, the sensitivity is always quite good.

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1   You can masturbate like a cut guy, but why change what you do, if you want to try and do that, it’s a good experience and will give you a feel as to how it feels. I hold the skin back and do that. If your, head is dry enough you don’t need lube as the head is harder.

2   No the skin will not get tight, it will become loser, some who have tried this have had issues with pulling there skins back, and when they do have trouble getting it back over, but that is rare. The skin will get lose,  I am afraid will not get shorter, where is the skin to go, it doesn’t disappear. Also you keep mentioning circ’ed, some people say that after years of being pulled back, you might consider it, but its your choice

3   The head will dry out, not sure I have seen flaky. The colour changes, from a deepish red, some to purple some to a faded red, but this is different for each person.

4   I am 50/50 on this, at one stage I though not, but recently with some serious prolonged pulled back, the shape and size has changed, it a subtle change, but picture I have show the difference. What you want is the head to flare which aids with the retraction.

5    Like most I don’t think it really is, I think, that if you do it for long you do lose some sensitivity. I feel that an Inch of skin behind my corona has changed and looks dry, and if I do get my skin to go forward, I have noticed that the head is still dry and the skin over it is dry. That is just my experience 

6   The question I would ask you, is why do you want to start, it does not hurt but takes effort. Choose a method that suits you, you may have to experiment with a few. You will have to work at it as It will take time, but then one day you will forget you are back and feel better. Again, as you mention circumcision, if you feel a few years don the road that you like keeping it back and you have done so for years, then consider it, but remember you don’t get the skin back

Can I ask what you mean by the skin becoming looser? I don't want my foreskin to be too loose if I'm doing permanent retraction.
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You can masturbate however you want. If your goal is the fastest possible path to permanent retraction, then keeping it pulled back all the time, even when masturbating, is probably your best bet. But if you're not in that much of a hurry, you can roll the foreskin up and down to masturbate. But I would recommend that you always pull it well back after you finish, and leave it pulled back. Because this will help the foreskin to more quickly adapt to the pulled back position, as it relaxes into it after you orgasm. I am an intermittent retracter. So I sometimes stay retracted for weeks or months, then go back to the covered position. I tend to masturbate by either rolling the skin on and off of the head, or by keeping it pulled back, and just jerking it behind the head. Usually when I'm in a retracted phase, I will keep the foreskin retracted during masturbation. If I'm in a covered phase, I could go either way, depending on my mood. If you're using the tape, or liquid latex method, than you obviously have to keep retracted during masturbation.


You are talking about paraphimosis. This condition occurs with men who have a phimosis (the opening at the tip of their foreskin is too tight) and still pull back the foreskin behind the glans. In this situation, when the head swells, the foreskin can become trapped behind the glans, and restrict blood supply to the glans. But if you can comfortably pull the foreskin behind the glans when you are erect, you have nothing to worry about.

Flakiness is not common, except during a transitional phase. But the glans will dry out, and keratinize (develop a thicker/tougher outer layer) the longer that you keep it exposed. This will tend to result in a more wrinkled appearance when flaccid, but should still look smooth when erect. The color will also tend to change to more closely resemble that of your shaft. Just look at how circumcised glans look, and you will get a reasonable idea of what to expect.

That is a subject of much debate. I think that for some this may be true. But for others, not so much.

It will definitely come back. Just look at all the accounts of men who do "foreskin restoration". Being an intermittent retracter, I see my sensitivity change white a bit when I go back and forth from log term retraction to covered, and back. In my case, it never gets back to quite the level of sensitivity that it had before I started retracting. But that might be because I never stop retracting for all that long. All I can say for sure is that the more you stay retracted, the more your sensitivity will decrease. The more you stay covered, the more it will tend to increase. In either case, based on my experience, the sensitivity is always quite good.

Hi, thank you for taking the time to answer all the questions. Regarding my first question, which also relates to how to roll back, is it ok if I just leave it if my foreskin can stay behind my glans without rolling over in a flaccid state? Or do I have to tuck it in nicely using rings and stuff? The rate at which I become desensitized is not an issue, since I'm most likely doing this long-term. Reason I'm asking is because when I roll it over, I sometimes can see my inner foreskin. Is that supposed to happen? Hope I'm explaining myself clearly here.
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The ridged band will become looser over time with you pulling back permanently. This can affect the amount of pleasure from masturbation, as the area has a lot of nerves (it's not just the coronal nerves that contribute to pleasurable sensations during sex and masturbation). This is why I'm an intermittent "recreational" retractor personally. I want to maintain full sensitivity.

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The ridged band will become looser over time with you pulling back permanently. This can affect the amount of pleasure from masturbation, as the area has a lot of nerves (it's not just the coronal nerves that contribute to pleasurable sensations during sex and masturbation). This is why I'm an intermittent "recreational" retractor personally. I want to maintain full sensitivity.

Yes, this is the part I don't get. Why will the ridged band get looser when doing permanent retraction? Is there anything I can do to avoid it?
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The skin just expands. It's like putting a rubberband around something and leaving it there for a while - when you take the rubberband off, it'll be looser.

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Yes, this is the part I don't get. Why will the ridged band get looser when doing permanent retraction? Is there anything I can do to avoid it?
Personally, I also don't quite understand the ability to stretch and "loosen" the frenulum as quoted by TapedStick, and others on here. Originally when I thinned this band many years ago I did not notice the thin fibers that are in it as I noticed more recently when I cut the remaining thickness. I can understand how the skin around this band may be stretched, but not the band itself. The frenulum is like any other tendon, not being stretchable on its own.

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The ridged band is not the frenulum - it's the loop around the end of the foreskin.

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Just a quick reply on regaining sensitivity - one of the main reasons why I go retracted is because I enjoy the feeling of my head being naked and love the sensation. After a while though, the feeling wears off so I cover over again for a few days so I can just start all over again! It usually just takes a day or so to get back to "normal".

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Just a quick reply on regaining sensitivity - one of the main reasons why I go retracted is because I enjoy the feeling of my head being naked and love the sensation. After a while though, the feeling wears off so I cover over again for a few days so I can just start all over again! It usually just takes a day or so to get back to "normal".

Same :)

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Just a quick reply on regaining sensitivity - one of the main reasons why I go retracted is because I enjoy the feeling of my head being naked and love the sensation. After a while though, the feeling wears off so I cover over again for a few days so I can just start all over again! It usually just takes a day or so to get back to "normal".
I don't get that, my skin is so dry that there is no feeling, perhaps if i leave it for weeks, but i shower and retract most of the time so the head will get dry again
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