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Title: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: guest1333 on 2017-06-04 13:59:34
I have massive penile papules all around my glans.
Any experience here if they get any smaller when pulling back for extended times?

(On the attached images my dick was oiled making the papules even more extreme...)
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-06-04 16:14:48
Wow. That's pretty extreme!

I've been pulled back for almost 2 years now, and my PPP haven't really gotten any smaller... but the fact that circumcised guys almost never have them makes me think that exposing the glans will make them go away. I just don't know how long it will take.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: thesevenpointfive on 2017-06-04 22:02:22
Wow. That's pretty extreme!

I've been pulled back for almost 2 years now, and my PPP haven't really gotten any smaller... but the fact that circumcised guys almost never have them makes me think that exposing the glans will make them go away. I just don't know how long it will take.

Not sure that true, but must admit i have not seen cut men with them, there is no hard in them, but not sure, but, keeping the skin back should help
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Hazeleye on 2017-06-05 03:22:00
Many years ago when I was younger, before I started to pullback, I had a few. After having been pulled back a while, mine did disappear. I always assumed that they were there to increase sensation. Might be wrong. By the way Sascha, you have been well blessed for them.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-06-05 10:02:15
By the way Sascha, you have been well blessed for them.
For PPP to be a blessing one has to have a positive attitude towards them. I also have PPP and never liked them despite knowing that they're harmless. Currently I'm trying to get rid of them. If it works I'll post the results.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: guest1333 on 2017-06-05 13:23:30
My wife likes the additional stimulation a lot, I don't like them because of easily getting sore...
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: jdm on 2017-06-11 22:31:28
If your PPP are getting sore, you might want to try treating them with CLA. In my experience, they react very quickly to it, and become a lot tougher. Personally I like the appearance of PPP. If you don't, you might find this thread interesting. http://pulledback.org/index.php?topic=194.0
It talks about PPP removal.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: guest1333 on 2017-06-12 04:41:36
What's CLA?
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-06-12 17:45:50
"Conjugated Linoleic Acid", often sold as a health supplement.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-06-25 20:28:56
After three weeks of sandpapering the PPP they were less prominent than before I started but still visible. So today I used the soldering iron method to get rid of those PPP. I cannot wait to see how that turns out after healing. Maybe a second session will be necessary. We'll see.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: guest1333 on 2017-06-26 05:49:14
Soldering iron?! Sounds pretty dangerous. Don't you burn the nerve endings with that?
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: brownuncut on 2017-06-26 09:32:27
After three weeks of sandpapering the PPP they were less prominent than before I started but still visible. So today I used the soldering iron method to get rid of those PPP. I cannot wait to see how that turns out after healing. Maybe a second session will be necessary. We'll see.

lol
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-06-26 18:16:28
Soldering iron?! Sounds pretty dangerous. Don't you burn the nerve endings with that?
Well, I cannot imagine it being more risky than using scalpels or lasers to remove the PPP.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: guest1333 on 2017-06-26 18:34:12
Would be interested in before and after pictures  :)
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-06-27 04:37:36
 :o That... ooh, uh, I dunno how I feel about that haha.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: jdm on 2017-06-28 17:05:36
After three weeks of sandpapering the PPP they were less prominent than before I started but still visible. So today I used the soldering iron method to get rid of those PPP. I cannot wait to see how that turns out after healing. Maybe a second session will be necessary. We'll see.
I would not feel comfortable doing that. I would have cautioned you against it, but you've already done it! So did it go? How did it feel? YIKES! :-\
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Aftskin on 2017-06-30 20:58:27
I would not feel comfortable doing that. I would have cautioned you against it, but you've already done it! So did it go? How did it feel? YIKES! :-\

I just assumed he was joking :O Nobody would actually do that right??
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-07-01 15:42:43
I just assumed he was joking :O Nobody would actually do that right??
I first read about the soldering iron method on the following website:
http://www.steadyhealth.com/topics/pearly-penile-papules-cure-or-just-a-scam?page=1 (http://www.steadyhealth.com/topics/pearly-penile-papules-cure-or-just-a-scam?page=1)
It sounded plausible to me that a soldering iron creates heat similar to a laser used to remove PPP. So I got the necessary equipment and just tried it myself using the lowest temperature possible. So far I had two sessions and hope that I catched all those PPP. The experience was less intense than frenulum tying for sure. I'm positive that the result will look nicer than a head with PPP and I'll post pictures when everything's healed up.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-07-01 17:17:45
I mean, I've seen some pics of guys who've "branded" their cocks and it seemed to heal up, so.. I guess it makes sense  :o
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: jdm on 2017-07-04 21:21:18
I've read online about something called "coronal branding" wherein pliers with C shaped jaws were heated and applied to the corona, as means to reduce sensitivity and curb masturbation. I guess that might also eliminate PPPs, but I'ts not something I would like to experience. And if it works as advertised, it might significantly reduce sensitivity, which depending on your goals and perspective, might not be a good thing. So I would be very careful with that soldering iron.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-07-07 19:21:46
How's the healing coming along Nexolaris?
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: zell85 on 2017-07-10 19:02:01
In my case it did make my PPP rather less obvious. Have not been so diligent lately with retracting and they have become slightly more obvious of late.

Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-07-11 04:29:21
How's the healing coming along Nexolaris?
I'm doing good.
Healing takes a little more time as I did additional burning sessions. Some of the bigger PPP needed more than one treatment, and somehow the smaller ones became more obvious once you've tackled the bigger ones.  ;D
Maybe one session would've been enough if I used a higher temperature. I only used 200°C on the soldering iron when I could've gone up to 450°C instead but I felt safer using only the lowest temperature possible. So more burning was needed.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-07-15 04:12:49
Here's a small teaser (morning wood). This looks promising.  ;D
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: guest1333 on 2017-07-15 07:55:46
Wow, this really looks amazing  :o
Any pain during the, process?
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-07-15 11:27:24
Wow, this really looks amazing  :o
Any pain during the, process?
When the numbing effect of the Emla cream wears off the soldering iron touching the skin is a little bit painful but the pain fades away shortly after. The same goes for PPP that aren't numb and that are treated accidentally or on purpose. I burnt several papules knowing they weren't numb to simplify the procedure but the pain was always manageable.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: guest1333 on 2017-07-15 14:04:48
If the red dots heal good, the result will be perfect I guess.
When hearing soldering iron my dick started hurting though...

What iron did you use? (Power, Temperature, tip size)
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-07-15 17:53:28
Wow, I guess I can't argue with the results  :o
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-07-15 19:46:01
If the red dots heal good, the result will be perfect I guess.
When hearing soldering iron my dick started hurting though...

What iron did you use? (Power, Temperature, tip size)
The soldering iron I used was a 60W one with temperature ranging between 200°C (392°F) and 450°C (842°F). I used the lowest temperature of 200°C (392°F). The size of the tip was about 0.5mm (less than 1/32 inch). So with a steady hand I could hit exactly the spots I wanted to.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: guest1333 on 2017-07-15 21:01:39
How long did you push it for each one?
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-07-16 11:22:21
How long did you push it for each one?
It was only a split second for each PPP, you usually hear a popping sound when you hit them. In this case I think it's better to do too little than too much as you can always return to treating those PPP again.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-07-16 22:24:54
Well I uh... I gave it a shot on a few of mine!

It was not NEARLY as scary or painful as I was expecting. Just a quick touch, like you said, and it felt like... someone snapping a rubberband on my glans? And the pain was instantly gone.

I just tried it on a half dozen or so, I want to see how well it worked so I'll wait a few days.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-07-17 05:19:35
Well I uh... I gave it a shot on a few of mine!

It was not NEARLY as scary or painful as I was expecting. Just a quick touch, like you said, and it felt like... someone snapping a rubberband on my glans? And the pain was instantly gone.

I just tried it on a half dozen or so, I want to see how well it worked so I'll wait a few days.
Wow, I never thought anyone else here would give it it a try. Please report back how it turns out for you.

Also, I used some kind of antiseptic cream for wound treatment (e.g. Betadine) afterwards just to be safe. The dead skin of the PPP starts peeling off after a few days to reveal red dots on the skin. Those vanish with time as healing progresses.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: guest1333 on 2017-07-17 05:55:23
If you both post pictures after everything has healed and they look good I'l go for it as well, even though I think I have much more work. Should be some hundreds here...
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-08-27 15:59:10
If you both post pictures after everything has healed and they look good I'l go for it as well, even though I think I have much more work. Should be some hundreds here...
Sorry for not posting sooner. Finally I got around to taking photos for a comparison after maybe 4 rounds of treating the PPP with the soldering iron. Please note that the before pictures were taken before I tied my frenulum.

I'm so happy with the result as I still remember how fascinated I was by the smoothness of the head as a young teen, and the horror when the PPP appeared on it. There's still a little bit of room for improvement but I think it looks decent enough now so that further treatments aren't really necessary. The hurting sensations or soreness I sometimes felt from my PPP are gone. Overall I didn't notice a reduction in sensitivity although it feels different of course. I definitely prefer the current state and don't have any regrets in this regard.

Warning: Be aware that the sudden smoothness of the corona after the removal of PPP may lead to an increased horniness and desire in touching the head of your penis.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: guest1333 on 2017-08-27 18:13:53
Wow, amazing result!!

I did my fourth soldering session today and mine will come out just as smooth as yours. 8)

Even after the third session it felt so much smoother already, just amazing, and as you said: no more soreness  :D

Will post comparison pics as well after this one has healed.

Thank you so much for the information, you really changed my dick  ;D
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-08-27 19:02:52
Wow, amazing result!!

I did my fourth soldering session today and mine will come out just as smooth as yours. 8)

Even after the third session it felt so much smoother already, just amazing, and as you said: no more soreness  :D

Will post comparison pics as well after this one has healed.

Thank you so much for the information, you really changed my dick  ;D
Wow, I thought you would wait until pictures got posted.  :o

It's great to hear that you found the courage to get started, and everything's working out fine for you. I cannot wait for your comparison pictures!  :)
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: jdm on 2017-08-28 01:15:56
... I still remember how fascinated I was by the smoothness of the head as a young teen, and the horror when the PPP appeared on it.
That's very interesting. I don't remember a time time when I didn't have PPPs. I believe that I've always had them. Up until I read your statement, I was under the impression that guys either had them or didn't. I'd never heard of anyone "developing" them after a time of not having any.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-08-28 05:31:59
That's very interesting. I don't remember a time time when I didn't have PPPs. I believe that I've always had them. Up until I read your statement, I was under the impression that guys either had them or didn't. I'd never heard of anyone "developing" them after a time of not having any.
I don't know when you started investigating your member but maybe they developed early for you which makes you think they had to be there from birth. From watching the following video it doesn't sound like PPP are something that's necessarily visible from birth onwards, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLWUZ35ck9g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLWUZ35ck9g)
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: guest1333 on 2017-08-28 06:01:52
I can also remember when my ppp developed, it was around the age 14. It was all smooth before so i tried to get rid of them as they grew trying to pull them off and cutting them with scissors.
But as you see in my pics the papules won - at least until they met their master now, the mighty soldering iron :)
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-08-28 07:13:41
I can also remember when my ppp developed, it was around the age 14. It was all smooth before so i tried to get rid of them as they grew trying to pull them off and cutting them with scissors.
But as you see in my pics the papules won - at least until they met their master now, the mighty soldering iron :)
It sounds like you took revenge and showed no mercy.  ;D
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: jdm on 2017-08-28 19:42:47
I don't know when you started investigating your member but maybe they developed early for you which makes you think they had to be there from birth. From watching the following video it doesn't sound like PPP are something that's necessarily visible from birth onwards, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLWUZ35ck9g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLWUZ35ck9g)
Well, they wouldn't be visible at birth, because the foreskin would be fused to the glans. But I remember when the last of my foreskin adhesions separated from the corona, and I could see the PPPs then.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-08-28 19:48:31
Well, they wouldn't be visible at birth, because the foreskin would be fused to the glans. But I remember when the last of my foreskin adhesions separated from the corona, and I could see the PPPs then.
This makes me wonder if PPP would be visible on a circumcised penis after RIC is performed, or if they generally appear at a later stage.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: jdm on 2017-08-28 20:39:04
Good point. I don't know the answer.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: meteorfun on 2017-08-31 06:50:32
I had mine removed with laser. Probably one of the best decisions in my life.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: TapedStick on 2017-09-01 06:47:40
I personally think PPP are attractive. I have some but not a ton. Part of me wishes I had more. They just seem very masculine to me.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: jdm on 2017-09-01 13:09:55
To each his own, but I like them too. Nice to see someone else sharing my opinion.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2017-09-02 22:13:06
I've burnt mine too over the past month or two! Mine were nowhere near as big as nexolaris' or sascha's to begin with, but it's already a lot smoother. I love your results, nexolaris!
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-09-03 09:20:22
I've burnt mine too over the past month or two! Mine were nowhere near as big as nexolaris' or sascha's to begin with, but it's already a lot smoother. I love your results, nexolaris!
That's great. I hope you will post some pics, too, when time allows.
And I'm really happy with my results as well. I don't care if PPP are a normal variety as it's me who has to live and be happy with my own body, not some medic or potential partner.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: guest1333 on 2017-09-11 11:49:17
Here's the direct comparison after four soldering sessions. Probably one more would make it perfect, but it already feels 100% smooth now and it is so amazing, even after hours of sex it doesn't get sore anymore :)
And the feeling of touching the glansring is waaaay better now  ::)

I can't feel any loss of sensitivity as well!
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: jdm on 2017-09-11 17:18:36
Wow, big difference!
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2017-09-13 09:50:04
Here's the direct comparison after four soldering sessions. Probably one more would make it perfect, but it already feels 100% smooth now and it is so amazing, even after hours of sex it doesn't get sore anymore :)
And the feeling of touching the glansring is waaaay better now  ::)
It looks so much better now!
Are you continuing the treatment or will this be the final result? Personally, I did it again and am currently in another healing phase.

I can't feel any loss of sensitivity as well!
I assume that the perceived sensitivity of the PPP comes from nerve endings situated below the surface of the skin of the corona. Those would get stimulated when the PPP get rubbed and in consequence tear on the underlying skin.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Professor Plum on 2018-05-18 08:57:10
Some really impressive results here. Inspired by them, I ordered a "Mole Freckle Pen" from eBay (there are tons of them) for about $20 that produces some kind of electrical discharge at its tip (not heat). It comes with two sizes of tips, and the needle is a very precise way of targeting each papule.

I also ordered a tube of 5% lidocaine cream and had a session last Saturday night, less than a week ago. I put the cream on my corona for 45 minutes and didn't feel any pain as I applied the pen. I used settings 1 and 2 (out of 9) and probably should have gone higher but was being cautious.

I'm really happy with the results! There are some videos on Youtube of people using these pens and no complaints that I've seen. I don't have any photos (sorry) and I don't have the perfect results yet that others have posted, but it's a huge improvement and I think another session would be the end of them.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: soundsgreat87 on 2018-05-18 19:01:47
Oooh, nice technique! Be sure to let us know how it goes after the second session.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2018-05-28 21:16:07
Some really impressive results here. Inspired by them, I ordered a "Mole Freckle Pen" from eBay (there are tons of them) for about $20 that produces some kind of electrical discharge at its tip (not heat). It comes with two sizes of tips, and the needle is a very precise way of targeting each papule.

I also ordered a tube of 5% lidocaine cream and had a session last Saturday night, less than a week ago. I put the cream on my corona for 45 minutes and didn't feel any pain as I applied the pen. I used settings 1 and 2 (out of 9) and probably should have gone higher but was being cautious.

I'm really happy with the results! There are some videos on Youtube of people using these pens and no complaints that I've seen. I don't have any photos (sorry) and I don't have the perfect results yet that others have posted, but it's a huge improvement and I think another session would be the end of them.
That sounds like a very promising alternative technique to remove those nasty PPP. It avoids the risk of accidentally burning yourself with the soldering iron.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: lunarian on 2018-07-14 03:20:20
Some really impressive results here. Inspired by them, I ordered a "Mole Freckle Pen" from eBay (there are tons of them) for about $20 that produces some kind of electrical discharge at its tip (not heat). It comes with two sizes of tips, and the needle is a very precise way of targeting each papule.

I also ordered a tube of 5% lidocaine cream and had a session last Saturday night, less than a week ago. I put the cream on my corona for 45 minutes and didn't feel any pain as I applied the pen. I used settings 1 and 2 (out of 9) and probably should have gone higher but was being cautious.

I'm really happy with the results! There are some videos on Youtube of people using these pens and no complaints that I've seen. I don't have any photos (sorry) and I don't have the perfect results yet that others have posted, but it's a huge improvement and I think another session would be the end of them.

Hey Professor Plum. Any update? Very curious to try this out myself but I'm a little scared of damaging/infecting myself. My PPP aren't super noticeable but they are there and they are very sensitive (in a bad way) when rubbed roughly.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Professor Plum on 2018-07-17 03:33:15
Hey Professor Plum. Any update?

The good news is that I didn't have any trouble with healing or any negative effects. The bad news is that after a few weeks the papules healed back to some degree. Still a big improvement but I need to get back to it.

I can only speak about my own experience, but as far as "DIY surgery" goes, this was pretty approachable.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: lunarian on 2018-07-17 21:35:53
The good news is that I didn't have any trouble with healing or any negative effects. The bad news is that after a few weeks the papules healed back to some degree. Still a big improvement but I need to get back to it.

I can only speak about my own experience, but as far as "DIY surgery" goes, this was pretty approachable.

Thanks! Hoping the pen arrives today or tomorrow so I'll have a go at it :)
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Professor Plum on 2018-07-24 04:21:43
Thanks! Hoping the pen arrives today or tomorrow so I'll have a go at it :)

So how did it go?
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: lunarian on 2018-07-26 21:00:52
So how did it go?

The pen only arrived late last week and I haven't had a chance yet. I'm pretty nervous about it to be honest - I don't have any numbing cream etc. because that's not available over the counter here. Thinking it's gonna hurt like hell! Any suggestions?

Might brave it his weekend...
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: lunarian on 2018-07-29 03:30:27
Might brave it his weekend...

Ah man. I'm nervous. I fired it up but the giant needle and fact that I'm putting this unknown product against my special area made me chicken out. I'm scared I'm gonna cause bad damage.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: lunarian on 2018-07-29 04:39:30
Ah man. I'm nervous. I fired it up but the giant needle and fact that I'm putting this unknown product against my special area made me chicken out. I'm scared I'm gonna cause bad damage.

Okay so I just thought fuck it and gave it a go. On level 1 there's a slight sting. Nothing too bad but it smells (I assume like burning flesh!) which is quite off putting. I am finding it really hard to pinpoint the papule itself because the tip is either too small or my papules are too big/plentiful.

It's itching after I touched a few but it doesn't seem to have done anything.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Professor Plum on 2018-07-30 03:53:25
Hmm, maybe try ice to numb it a little? Yes, the smell is pretty unpleasant but I guess that's how you know it's working. I pointed a fan at myself.

I used a magnifying glass to get a closer look at and target the individual papules and they were definitely getting singed. Maybe try level 2? I'm surprised you didn't notice any difference. It was a noticeable improvement right away for me which diminished a little over time as the papules healed.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: lunarian on 2018-08-23 10:40:01
Hmm, maybe try ice to numb it a little? Yes, the smell is pretty unpleasant but I guess that's how you know it's working. I pointed a fan at myself.

I used a magnifying glass to get a closer look at and target the individual papules and they were definitely getting singed. Maybe try level 2? I'm surprised you didn't notice any difference. It was a noticeable improvement right away for me which diminished a little over time as the papules healed.

So I had a frenectomy a couple of days ago and to go with the healing I decided to try the pen again while just braving the pain. I did had it on level 2 as you mentioned but I couldn't really hold it against the papule/corona due to the pain. Instead, I had to rapidly dab the area with the pen which seemed to have turned the papules white (but they didn't seem to completely really flatten/disappear/fall off or anything. They might dry out/come off when it starts to heal properly?). I seemed to have noticed that the papule itself was the painful part as I applied the pen; when I applied the pen to an area without a papule or after the papule turned white the pain was minimal (but maybe I was just used to it).

Overall, they still kind of seem pronounced and I'm just waiting for it to heal properly again to assess. If there's a difference I might try to get rid of them over multiple sessions but I am not all that hopeful to be honest. It would be useful if I could get some sort of numbing cream so I could withstand the pain but without it it's a bit painful to hold it there for more than a fraction of a second.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: notadoctor on 2018-10-06 05:52:25
I have a pretty bad case of PPP so inspired by this thread I got one of the same mole remover electro pens from Amazon.

Took some Tylenol and Advil beforehand.

Just did all of the PPP on setting 3 out of 8, didn't even bother with numbing cream.

I found the same as lunarian, it doesn't heat up, so you don't hold it against the spot, but rather dab, and from different angles.

They go white, and seem to actually hurt less once they're white, and they won't burn any more.

Hurts about as much as a rubber band like someone else said, pain completely gone within a few minutes.

Will post back with updates as it heals.

Sorry, no pics.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: lunarian on 2018-10-16 01:11:00
They go white, and seem to actually hurt less once they're white, and they won't burn any more.

Hurts about as much as a rubber band like someone else said, pain completely gone within a few minutes.

Will post back with updates as it heals.

Sorry, no pics.

Yep, they went white for me too. And similarly they hurt less/stopped hurting once they did. I did 3 sessions over three weeks and initially it seemed like there definitely was a reduction. I stopped doing it because waiting several days each time for the area to heal was annoying but unfortunately it seems like the result a couple of months later is no change.

I took a bunch of pictures after each session hoping I could do a before and after but given it wasn't significant for me I decided not to.

Let me know how it goes for you! I only did the level 2 setting so maybe I need to go higher?
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Professor Plum on 2018-10-17 07:01:46
I'm surprised. I've still only had the one session on levels 1 and 2, and while I did get some of them healing back, it's a huge improvement. I wonder if mole pens differ in strength.

You both mention that the papules turned white, but weren't they already white? My recollection is that they turned black, like they were being burned off.

I tried to take some before and after photos but didn't get great results. I used a DSLR for the before and my phone for the after. But you can see that they're much improved.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: uncut1017 on 2018-10-22 06:26:40
Nice results! Ive been meaning to go get mine taken care of but im not sure how much that would cost so im gonna wait and find out
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: notadoctor on 2018-12-18 01:32:13
Update.

After first session with the electrocautery pen and no numbing, much improvement. The longest papules greatly reduced in length, overall appearance diminished.

The discomfort lasted a few days, but I could still jerk off carefully if that's any indication of how minor it was.

The most surprising thing was some papules peeling like a sunburn or dry lips will, up to two weeks afterwards. It was like painlessly pulling off nearly an entire papule in some cases, very satisfying.

Got around to doing a second session recently.

Used some off the shelf 4% lidocaine to numb for maybe 15 minutes beforehand, not because the pain was unbearable the first time, only because I wanted to be more effective.

Tried setting 4 out of 9 this time, faster and did a better job.

Pain 24-48 hours later feels the same as the first time, basically like a sunburn, can't feel anything with foreskin forward.

Uses a triple antibiotic to be safe for a few days afterwards, looks like a very minor burn/scab.

Thinking I'll probably need one or two more sessions to completely finish them off to get a fully smooth appearance.

Again, no pics, will post an update in a few weeks/months when I get around to it.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: notadoctor on 2018-12-18 01:37:04
Just saw Professor Plum's pics. Mine looked similar size but more extensive in the first pic, his results are slightly better than my first treatment, I suspect I'll be ahead after the second is healed.

So far this seems a much safer, more accurate and effective method than a soldering iron, others shouldn't be afraid to have a go.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: Nexolaris on 2018-12-30 21:06:39
So far this seems a much safer, more accurate and effective method than a soldering iron, others shouldn't be afraid to have a go.
Did you try out both methods to come to such a conclusion? To me the soldering iron seemed safe, accurate and effective, too.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: The 3rd on 2019-09-30 21:14:32
I am so awestruck with this topic! You guys are amazing and I love you commitment, and your new smooth glans 😁
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: guest1320 on 2019-11-22 00:43:56
Thoughts on removing these lumps with the soldering iron method?
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: kralendijk on 2019-12-14 14:02:40
Mine are definitely less prominent after pulling back.

Before, they were very noticeable, and now they are still there, but not as large or white.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: 4toA2 on 2022-08-05 13:40:52
Would love to know if the papules get keratinised too. That's gotta be amazing for the person on the receiving end!
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: jdm on 2022-08-12 04:37:30
Would love to know if the papules get keratinised too. That's gotta be amazing for the person on the receiving end!
I have PPP, and I like them. They are the first thing to get keratinized when I retract.
Title: Re: Perly Penile Papules & Pulling Back
Post by: lmea14 on 2022-08-12 05:01:03
Isn't it a much better idea to go see a urologist than to take a soldering iron to your junk? That seems like it could end very poorly.