Hello there! I need your suggestion as many of you is more expert from me in being pulled back!
It's been 1 month and i have been changing from Spoon Method to Scrunchie Method through the day.
Usually when i sleep i go to Spoon Method since it's very comfortable for me (when i am fully erected it doesn't even fold back). When i wake up i go into Srunchie Method until 5 or 6 in the afternoon that i turn to Spoon Method until the other day.
Even though the Spoon Method is comfortable for me it isn't always. Sometimes it pisses me off to adjust it in order to not feel the stickiness.
Some of the rings i ordered from the net arrived. Some of them could fit in my penis and others are still not very comfortable.
After reading many topics of the forum i noticed that i am more of a Shower. Actually my penis is 12cm in most circumstanses and get to 16 t o17cm when erected.
So i noticed that i find more comfortable with the sleeve methods until now than any other rings.
Yesterday a sleeve i ordered from alliexpress finally arrived and it turned very comfortable for me until now:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1Pcs-Cock-Glove-Male-masturbator-Adult-Sex-Toys-for-Man-Sexy-Penis-Cover-Men-s-Thongs/32790617791.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.bxaA7x (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1Pcs-Cock-Glove-Male-masturbator-Adult-Sex-Toys-for-Man-Sexy-Penis-Cover-Men-s-Thongs/32790617791.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.bxaA7x)
However i want to ask if there's a way to maintain solid the foreskin all way back of my penis because i don't know but in some way the sleeve unfolds and the foreskin reaches the glans since i don't want that to happen. Do you have any ideas?
Last question, Do you thing finding a proper sleeve method can help you go permanently retracted? I thinking of that since the foreskin stays covered by the sleeve. Maybe because of that finer folds can't be created?
Thanks! I am also going to post photos! :)
Btw with keratinization of my foreskin my penis feels great!
Glad to hear you're finding methods that work for you better! :D
A sleeve method might work well for you, if you are a shower. But I would say you need a firmer sleeve. The thin fabric of that sleeve will fold easily. I wonder what fabric or material would be more stiff?
I ordered 3 more types of sleeves made of silicone! Let's hope one of these would be more effective xD :
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Flexible-Safe-Silicone-Elasticity-Penis-Rings-Male-Delaying-Ejaculation-Medical-Themed-Toys-Sleeves/32800881230.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.bxaA7x (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Flexible-Safe-Silicone-Elasticity-Penis-Rings-Male-Delaying-Ejaculation-Medical-Themed-Toys-Sleeves/32800881230.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.bxaA7x)
I don't know id anyone here tried them already!
Could you please write a short review of the sleeves and rings after you try them on, SilverHawk? I'm thinking of buying one too and I'm not sure which one to pick. It would help to know the girth of your penis as well if you could share that information with us.
Sure Eridan. I'd be glad to help you guys with my research.
It's been 1 month and during these days i received many sleeves and rings. The results were not so good for me until now. The bad is i have to wait for a whole new month again for the new orders to arrive.
I am not going to write the review for rings because they are not comfortable for me.
I begin with a short review for each item. I want to note that i am a shower so the sleeve method looks better for me.
The width of my penis is around 41mm in normal state in case it helps you to figure out which sleeve is the best for you.
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That one was too stretchy for me. I even cut it in 2 but i still had the same results. I had to throw it away.
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That one is comfortable but not so stable.
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Probably the most comfortable sleeve but it has some disavantages. It's a bit fluid. The inside is 30mm but the outside is 50mm. I guess if the outside was 40mm it'd be perfect. It's very comfortable.
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I am trying this these days. In fact i received it 2 days ago. I had to use the sleeves i received together which made the foreskin much more stable. However is not as comfortable as the last sleeve.
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I am also waiting for these sleeves:
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And i am willing to try some foam sleeves. Once i choose which one i get i'll let you know.
I noticed that the sleeves i made for girl Scrunchies are the better until now and i can wear them for longer periods. However problem is i can't find in the stores the same scrunchie i bought in size. I need it a bit smaller from these that they sell. My idea is to make a longer sleeve that these i made and i have no scrunchie avalaible. lol
Ah, about the Srunchies i check for the witdth to be exatly of my penis, 41mm.
I want to notice that find very hard to stabilize the penis in being pulled back. It doesn't stay back for most time. However i noticed my penis learned to stay back in some way, though i still need to make it stay a bit more back than it usually stays. I am going to post pics asap.
The skin that folds under my glans now isn't very much. It looks like is developing deep wrinkles as jdm said.
It seems like that my foreskin needs a lot of pressure to stay all the way back. That's why i don't find any ring method comfortable for now.
Ah, i need to research more! Until now the spoon method i use with the fingers is the most stable one. I can even sleep and stay that way 24/3. It's hard to find the best way to achieve permanent retraction! xD
Should i try the tape method?
For me, tape is easily the best. Once around somewhere toward the bottom of the shaft, then another layer on top of the first tape that's double sided from folding. Pull the foreskin down over the top of it, it'll stick back. Then another normal layer on top for neatness and further hold.
This takes 60 seconds, is very comfortable and is by far the most effective method for me.
I hope in a year from now the skin will be trained and I'll "graduate" to the spoon method. This does work for me but only short term- movement makes the skin unfold.
How much are you using the tape method? Did you see any result of permanent retraction until now Adonis?
I found out a new method today. I put the small silicone sleeve under my glans and i pull over my foreskin and the foreskin reaches under my glans. I am going to post photos too.
Now i am posting new pics of my deep wrinkles transformation. I don't know but i am having some results
The photos are not very clear i noticed however:
In the first pic you can see how my foreskin unfolds under my glans. The unfolding is much less than it was.
Hi- I tape back and leave it on until I shower. Then I try to keep is back using a similar fold to the spoon method.
I have only been trying for the last 3-4 weeks, but I think there are improvements. Today my glans remained half covered just by folding which was a big milestone, no way I could have done that before 'training'. i think some residual stickiness from the tape helped, but still, it's something!
adonis doesn't it hurt when you try to remove the tape? I am really curius.
Now i am posting the new sleeve method i found.
In the 1st pick you put the sleeve just under your glans.
In the 2nd pic you pull your foreskin forward.
The looks is very good plus is very comfortable.
Though i dunno if i need that size of sleeve or a slight bigger.
Other things i ask myself is if my foreskin remains keratinized this way. I think yes because the foreskin is in contact with the silicone?
I also notice that this is also a good training method for the ridged band of the foreskin to get bigger. I think at least.
I don't know but the opinion of someone who is more expert in that and tried this method before would be very helpful.
SilverHawk, I think your method is good for stretching out the rigid band, and the frenulum. But I'm not so sure about keratinizing the inner foreskin. The reason is that the foreskin is covered by the sleeve and a second layer of skin. So it is not exposed to the air and rubbing on clothes.
Also, it is probably good for training the skin to stay with spoon method, but will not train the skin to form wrinkles which will keep the foreskin pulled all the way back from the glans. So it depends on your ultimate goals.
What's the benefit of keratinising the inner foreskin? Does it significantly help with staying pulled back?
@silverhawk by the end of the day, due to sweating etc it comes off pretty easily. Sometimes when it's still on tight there's slight discomfort but not bad and only for a second.
Quote from: adonis on 2017-10-28 12:55:40
What's the benefit of keratinising the inner foreskin? Does it significantly help with staying pulled back?
Well, some benefits are debatable, and come down to personal preference. The purported benefits of the keratinizing the inner foreskin are similar to those of keratinizing the glans. It becomes less sensitive, and more durable, which may enable you to last longer, and enjoy different types of sexual activity. Keratiniziation of the inner foreskin may also make it somewhat thicker and stiffer, which could help with permanent retraction. There are also some studies which suggest that a keratnized inner foreskin may provide greater resistance to STDs. You can read about that in my thread about keratinizing agents here. https://pulledback.org/index.php?topic=224.msg1786#msg1786
adonis you may also achieve permanent retraction by finding the best switable method for you.
So, jdm, does the tape method helps you to achieve permanent retraction? What's your opinion? I am going to try it out. I never figured i'd ever try that method in my life! haha
I have to find out new methods... the sleeve method i sawed you is super comfortable for me as long as the spoon method. I am sure i can go 24 hours with no problem with that.
I need to find a method that keeps the inner foreskin exposed, stable too.
Quote from: SilverHawk on 2017-10-30 23:16:01
So, jdm, does the tape method helps you to achieve permanent retraction? What's your opinion? I am going to try it out. I never figured i'd ever try that method in my life! haha ... I need to find a method that keeps the inner foreskin exposed, stable too.
I may be the wrong guy to ask, because I am an intermittent retracter. But since you asked, I will give you my educated opinion. I believe that any method which keeps the foreskin pulled back, and the glans exposed, will help you progress towards permanent retraction. I think that whatever configuration you maintain over an extended period will tend to establish itself as a new norm. So if you use, for example, the spoon method, your foreskin will, over time, tend to accept the tucked in position as the new norm. And that's fine, if your goal is to maintain permanent retraction in the tucked in configuration. But if your goal is for the foreskin to be permanently retracted without tucking in, then it is probably necessary to use a retraction method which will encourage the foreskin to stay pulled back without any sort of tuck in. This is where the idea of forming deep wrinkles comes in.
If the foreskin is kept pulled back, such that the wrinkles are formed at the base of the shaft, as with the liquid latex method, or a similar use of tape, it is likely to cause deep wrinkling in this area, which will, over time, become the new norm, and help keep the foreskin pulled back, even without continued use of latex or tape. If you use a ring behind the glans to keep the foreskin pushed back, it will also help to form wrinkles, but they will tend to form closer to the glans, which will result in less gap, and less exposure of the inner foreskin. So you really have to consider your goals, and whether the method you choose is consistent with those goals.
The regular tape method will definitely help achieve permanent retraction. It will help keep the inner foreskin well exposed, and flat along the shaft; stretching the frenulum and rigid band. Which will encourage acceptance of that position as the new norm. However, the taped area is in a tucked position, which does not encourage formation of deep wrinkles, which may not be most helpful, if your goal is to achieve permanent retraction without continuing to use tape. That's why I proposed the simplified tape method, of just pushing the skin down toward the base, and wrapping tape around the wrinkled area, to help form those wrinkles, instead of tucking the skin under itself, as with the conventional tape method.
Hey jdm can you explain me what is the "tuck in" position because i am lost with my english?
If i am right i assume you mean i have to find a method that the deep wrinkles form from the opposite side i have them now? Just like the pic you said soundsgreat87 has in his profile picture?
The regular tape method is done by putting the tape where the foreskin line ends or by the lower side of the penis?
Quote from: SilverHawk on 2017-11-01 13:59:50
Hey jdm can you explain me what is the "tuck in" position because i am lost with my english?
By "tuck" I mean that one part of the skin is folded in under a different part. Like with the spoon method. This does not encourage the formation of wrinkles. If wrinkle formation is desired, it is necessary to cause the skin to bunch together in on area, such that it occupies less space, and in effect, shortens the skin.
Quote from: SilverHawk on 2017-11-01 13:59:50If i am right i assume you mean i have to find a method that the deep wrinkles form from the opposite side i have them now? Just like the pic you said soundsgreat87 has in his profile picture?
Actually, when your foreskin is not retracted, it does not have any deep wrinkles. It is extended to its full length. The purpose of forming deep wrinkles, is so that the skin will bunch up along the shaft, and be effectively shorter as a result. This will help to keep it retracted. Notice how when you retract your foreskin wrinkles form on the shaft. The idea is to make these wrinkles permanent, so that they tend to keep the foreskin pulled back most of the time. What Soundsgreat87 is doing in his picture is different. He has a solid ring positioned on his shaft, and has rolled his foreskin back over it, which effectively keeps the foreskin pulled back. It also very effectively exposes the inner foreskin, and helps to stretch the rigid band and frenulum (if you have one). So it is helpful in those ways, but it does not encourage the formation of deep wrinkles along the shaft. The regular tape method would have similar pros and cons.Quote from: SilverHawk on 2017-11-01 13:59:50The regular tape method is done by putting the tape where the foreskin line ends or by the lower side of the penis?
With the foreskin covering the glans, a thin strip of tape is placed on the outside of the foreskin, behind the glans (Exact positioning will require experimentation for best results). The foreskin is then rolled back over this tape, to the extent that the tape is entirely covered by foreskin. A second, wider piece of tape is then placed to keep the foreskin in this position. Optionally, the lump formed by the folded foreskin can be squeezed to reposition it from in front of the second tape (closer to the glans), to behind it (closer to the base). Here are two links to tutorials with pictures, that help to understand the process.
https://pulledback.org/index.php?topic=18.msg60#msg60 (https://pulledback.org/index.php?topic=18.msg60#msg60)
https://pulledback.org/index.php?topic=253.msg2119#msg2119 (https://pulledback.org/index.php?topic=253.msg2119#msg2119)
Quote from: jdm on 2017-10-31 23:52:02
I may be the wrong guy to ask, because I am an intermittent retracter. But since you asked, I will give you my educated opinion. I believe that any method which keeps the foreskin pulled back, and the glans exposed, will help you progress towards permanent retraction. I think that whatever configuration you maintain over an extended period will tend to establish itself as a new norm. So if you use, for example, the spoon method, your foreskin will, over time, tend to accept the tucked in position as the new norm. And that's fine, if your goal is to maintain permanent retraction in the tucked in configuration. But if your goal is for the foreskin to be permanently retracted without tucking in, then it is probably necessary to use a retraction method which will encourage the foreskin to stay pulled back without any sort of tuck in. This is where the idea of forming deep wrinkles comes in.
If the foreskin is kept pulled back, such that the wrinkles are formed at the base of the shaft, as with the liquid latex method, or a similar use of tape, it is likely to cause deep wrinkling in this area, which will, over time, become the new norm, and help keep the foreskin pulled back, even without continued use of latex or tape. If you use a ring behind the glans to keep the foreskin pushed back, it will also help to form wrinkles, but they will tend to form closer to the glans, which will result in less gap, and less exposure of the inner foreskin. So you really have to consider your goals, and whether the method you choose is consistent with those goals.
The regular tape method will definitely help achieve permanent retraction. It will help keep the inner foreskin well exposed, and flat along the shaft; stretching the frenulum and rigid band. Which will encourage acceptance of that position as the new norm. However, the taped area is in a tucked position, which does not encourage formation of deep wrinkles, which may not be most helpful, if your goal is to achieve permanent retraction without continuing to use tape. That's why I proposed the simplified tape method, of just pushing the skin down toward the base, and wrapping tape around the wrinkled area, to help form those wrinkles, instead of tucking the skin under itself, as with the conventional tape method.
What exactly do you mean be the "liquid latex method"? Is it somewhere on this forum described or explained because I can't seem to find it?
Quote from: Loveboy100 on 2017-11-02 14:04:52
What exactly do you mean be the "liquid latex method"? Is it somewhere on this forum described or explained because I can't seem to find it?
Here you go. https://pulledback.org/index.php?topic=208.msg1611#msg1611
My results so far.
Jdm, looks like the tape method is not effective with me. My foreskin is just to tight. I tried twice, once with a normal tape and then with a smaller one but i couldn't even reach the 1st stage of the tape method.
But browsing throught the alliexpress penises retract devises i noticed this item:
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If i find out that this item would be the exact item for me then i'd better check which one would be the better one through alliexpress. I think i will try out that double ring method.
Since i have some ring bigger that usual awhile i ago i tried toput the ring under my scrotch and by pulling the foreskin back i got a result like this in the first photo i post.
It's like hours i am like this and i had not problems other than some stability that it loses once in a awhile.
I think i understand now what you mean by creating the deep wrinkles.
I notice that in the right side under my glans more deep winkle are being created by using this new method. However i don't see similar results on the left side under my glans. Your opinion through the photos would be very helpful
If i ever get to be permanently retracted i get that the feeling would be awesome.
Quote from: SilverHawk on 2017-11-05 18:08:00
I think i understand now what you mean by creating the deep wrinkles.
I notice that in the right side under my glans more deep winkle are being created by using this new method. However i don't see similar results on the left side under my glans. Your opinion through the photos would be very helpful
I'm not sure that I understand your question, and the photos only show the right side, so I don't have a frame of reference for the left. I can tell you that sometimes the skin may be uneven. Mine is fairly symmetrical, but because my penis curves slightly to one side, there is effectively more skin to bunch up on that one side. These natural variations are just things you have to accept and deal with.
Yes jdm, i didn't show the left side of my penis in that pic. That was what i was talking about.
Ok, so i ordered new items from alliexpress.
I am gonna post them here and when i have them i am also going to post reviews. Let's hope one of the is the item i am searching about months now, haha.
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I have high hopes on the 1st 2 items. I checked that the measures are compatible with my penis size espesially in the first one, while the 1nd item is very adjustable, i can change the ring by will.
Any further suggestions of what to try are really helpful, now so that i order more items and i don't have to wait more than a month again :) :)
Items 1 & 4 seem the most interesting to me.
Quote from: jdm on 2017-10-31 23:52:02
The regular tape method will definitely help achieve permanent retraction. It will help keep the inner foreskin well exposed, and flat along the shaft; stretching the frenulum and rigid band. Which will encourage acceptance of that position as the new norm. However, the taped area is in a tucked position, which does not encourage formation of deep wrinkles, which may not be most helpful, if your goal is to achieve permanent retraction without continuing to use tape. That's why I proposed the simplified tape method, of just pushing the skin down toward the base, and wrapping tape around the wrinkled area, to help form those wrinkles, instead of tucking the skin under itself, as with the conventional tape method.
I tried the simplified tape method you proposed today. My first impression is that it feels more comfortable, especially with a hard-on. I assume that applying the tape to the wrinkled skin fixes the position of the foreskin in a more natural position than the regular tape method will do. This method could become my preferred way of retracting if it always feels this way.
I made two more orders that i will give you some reviews once they arrive:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Men-s-Lingerie-Underwear-Ball-Enhancer-Lifter-C-strap-Panties-BDSM-Strap-Belt-Sex-Toys-For/32803692640.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.5S9UxM (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Men-s-Lingerie-Underwear-Ball-Enhancer-Lifter-C-strap-Panties-BDSM-Strap-Belt-Sex-Toys-For/32803692640.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.5S9UxM)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Male-underwear-panties-cock-rings-men-s-t-thong-mt791/32212985330.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.5S9UxM (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Male-underwear-panties-cock-rings-men-s-t-thong-mt791/32212985330.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.5S9UxM)
Why did i choose them is because i noticed that when you pull your foreskin back and put the end of the pants between the penis and your balls it helps to keep your foreskin back permanently?? that's the question
Hello there, it's been 1 month and i still haven't received the items i ordered that's why i didn't post any review. I even ordered the Stealth for Men in the meanwhile because if it takes a lot to reach an item i think i'd rather order them all so i can test them and check faster which method is the best for me.
I'd rather ask however an opinion for permanent retractors. By having a silicone sleeve like this:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Flexible-Safe-Silicone-Elasticity-Penis-Rings-Male-Delaying-Ejaculation-Medical-Themed-Toys-Sleeves/32800881230.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.Yn6ITw (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Flexible-Safe-Silicone-Elasticity-Penis-Rings-Male-Delaying-Ejaculation-Medical-Themed-Toys-Sleeves/32800881230.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.Yn6ITw)
What can i use it for to help reach permanent retraction?
My goal is to learn my foreskin make deep wrinkles so that it doesn't unfold like a reverse spoon method. I can reach that state easily and i developed some deep wrinkles but i need more deep wrinkles. Do you have more suggestions ideas until i get the new stuff? Thanks!
I am going through updates here. I still haven't received the stuff i ordered by the way.
I tried the Stealth For Men which when i ordered it arrived in 2 weeks. It's comfortable but it still has some disadvantages. As it helps for the creation of Deep wrinkles but the foreskin i think it looses itself.
I'd rather got to a new method. LEt's say it's the tube method since i use 2 silicone sleeves together. It supports the creation of deep wrinkles and plus it stretches the foreskin. So 2 in 1. Plus it's very comfortable. I'll try staying 24/7 with it one day. Tomorrow i am also going to post pics of it.
I want to note that silicone has estrogen so that helps more with the keratinization of the foreskin.
I posted the item before:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Flexible-Safe-Silicone-Elasticity-Penis-Rings-Male-Delaying-Ejaculation-Medical-Themed-Toys-Sleeves/32800881230.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.Yn6ITw (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Flexible-Safe-Silicone-Elasticity-Penis-Rings-Male-Delaying-Ejaculation-Medical-Themed-Toys-Sleeves/32800881230.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.Yn6ITw)
Here i come with the photos i promised. Looking at the pics of penis in the past i see how much is different and changes positively!
But i see the progress is slow but good.
This time i took better quality fotos with better quality.
In the 1st 2 pics is my penis with the double sleeve silicone method i suggested. It's very comfortable and i pull all my foreskin back before i wear each sleeve. Under the your pants pants you feel like you don't wear them and it has a stability of 90% i'd say because sometimes the sleeve tends to go bit above the glans, but not muvh. Once done you just readjust it without even removing the sleeves.
The 2 last pics is my penis just after i removed the sleeves after 3 hours of usage.
As some of you noted i posted the side of my penis the right and left. The right one is more stable and doesn't unfolds while in the left side there's more tendency for the foreskin to unfold since now are starting to develop Deep Wrinkles under it with the new methods used.
I am looking for your impressions and suggestions in order to improve the Deep Winkles. As i said previously my goal is to make my foreskin not unfold under my glans.
I'll also be glad if anyone of you will help you with this sleeve method.
Thanks :)